Jordynne Grace says that wrestling is an art and not a sport; Cornette fukkery ensues
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TrueEpic08
Dum Shiny
Carnies gonna carny. People need to stop falling for Cornette's shtick as well, annoying as that can be.
With that said, this is not an either/or dilemma. Wrestling is definitely performance art, it just so happens that the performance is simulating combat sport. You have to respect both in order to really get ahead in the business, as the qualities you see in top stars or the biggest earners are often from both the performance and sport ends of the spectrum (gimmick/character, physique, in-ring ability, athleticism, promo ability, etc.). You can definitely get ahead trending toward one end or the other (Bret Hart himself, when discussing his rating system, said that he was much more of an in-ring guy who happened to have believable, grounded promos as opposed to a Hulk Hogan, an outsized character with theatrical in-ring work), but every wrestler worth their salt needs to have qualities from both categories, and respect the ability needed to do well in both arenas.
Thing about this argument is, Cornette gets it and Grace doesn't, it just so happens that Corny is being (as usual) a massive dikk about it. For all his discussion regarding verisimilitude and sport in wrestling, he understood that HIS SPECIFIC ROLE meant that he couldn't be tough, a well-rounded technician, or any of that. His contribution to the sport side of wrestling as a character meant acting as promoter and manager, annoying his opponents, and eventually getting his ass kicked from time to time (basically, everything we want to do to Don King types). Grace apparently either doesn't understand or care for the sport aspect of wrestling, and it completely undermines everything you do by just blatantly and obviously calling it fake without any regard for how that side of wrestling affects how we suspend disbelief and care for the action in the ring.
It's just dumb. Marks in the ring again and all...
Rell84shots
Veteran
We know what we're watching, the problem is now they want to tell us what we're watching.
Jordynne knows all about art... The art of getting online simps to cover your $40 hotel milkshake tab
MenacingMonk
Tranquilo
Why do you guys have sand in your vagina because she called it “performance art”? 
How is performance art different from theatrics? Jericho has always said wrestling is theatrics. That’s basically the same as performance art.
Half of these posts sound like bitter 80s wrestlers.
How is performance art different from theatrics? Jericho has always said wrestling is theatrics. That’s basically the same as performance art.
Half of these posts sound like bitter 80s wrestlers.
Honestly thinking about it just now, Cornette is essentially playing his 80s manager gimmick but expressing his very real opinion. Cornette is doing a better job being a heel on Twitter than 90% of the talent in WWE today
Bryan Danielson
Jmare007 x Bryan Danielson x JLova = King Ghidorah
Performance Art
Norrin Radd
To me, my board!
Sounds like a couple TSC posters to be honest
How is performance art different from theatrics? Jericho has always said wrestling is theatrics. That’s basically the same as performance art.
Theatrics derives from theater, which is the performing arts. Performance art, on the other hand, is a conceptual branch of fine arts - similar name but not the same thing.
Until I see a wrestling show which is staged as a fine art exhibit, it's not performance art
MenacingMonk
Tranquilo
Theatrics derives from theater, which is the performing arts. Performance art, on the other hand, is a conceptual branch of fine arts - similar name but not the same thing.
Until I see a wrestling show which is staged as a fine art exhibit, it's not performance art
If I didn’t know the difference, who’s to say she didn’t either? She probably meant performing art.
Plus I don’t see much difference between the 2. It’s like what’s the difference between a smark and a mark? They’re both fans of rasslin at the end of the day.
JerseyBoy23
Veteran
Theatrics derives from theater, which is the performing arts. Performance art, on the other hand, is a conceptual branch of fine arts - similar name but not the same thing.
Until I see a wrestling show which is staged as a fine art exhibit, it's not performance art
I think that's one of the reasons I can't rock with Grace's idea. Performing art and performance art are two different mediums and at it's most artistic, wrestling is just a stunt show.
Wrestlers wanting to be treated like actors without being in actual TV shows or movies is going bring them back down to reality because there's community theatre actors that are better than them, they need to own the fact that they're more athletic than the average person.
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If I didn’t know the difference, who’s to say she didn’t either? She probably meant performing art.
I'm starting to think she didn't know.. wrestlers got me thinking back to my Bachelor of Art degree
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In reality it is performance art but the product should not be presented that way everywhere. I can see a niche promotion focusing on a product that is more open with it's audience. Overall tho? Nah. That'd be like all major motion pictures breaking the 4th wall. She's bugging and Cornette is lapping it up. They're doing his job for him at this point.
MenacingMonk
Tranquilo
If anyone wants to read about the difference between performance art vs. performing arts:
https://actingcoachscotland.co.uk/blog/between-performing-arts-and-performance-art/
Basically, how I see it, performing art is WWE, performance art is Indy wrestling.
https://actingcoachscotland.co.uk/blog/between-performing-arts-and-performance-art/
Basically, how I see it, performing art is WWE, performance art is Indy wrestling.