Jokic is really about to be a 3peat MVP

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That's just a straw man you're using because like many Casuals on this board you have a problem with a fat Euro, who can't jump over a sheet of A4 paper, dominating the game. The sight is unfathomable that this wide-as-the-court foreign white boy can trundle up and down the floor and look like the best player in a Black league. I'd imagine for many of you it's like having Super Fly, Shaft, Slaughter and Truck Turner, and then along comes Jabba the Hutt to steal the show.

Not necessarily because we all like Luka.

Bron went to 8 straight finals and didn't win 3 MVPs in a row.

Joker is legit, but cmon now. Lol.
 
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Not necessarily because we all like Luka.
Luka is one of the most disliked stars on this board. Folks were once upon a time praying for him to be a bust.
Bron went to 8 straight finals and didn't win 3 MVPs in a row.

Joker is legit, but cmon now. Lol.
I'm trying to work out, exactly, how this is relevant?

The stars have aligned over the last two seasons for Jokic, well, one could argue he pretty much aligned them himself, dragging his team to being as competitive as they were, where no other player was able to generate a better narrative than him because of it. If he deserves it for a third time, then that's just the way it is. Just because it hasn't been done before under the same circumstances doesn't mean he's not deserving.

The fact this man has been a footnote in the MVP conversation heading into the last two years, and even well into both those seasons, should tell you all you need to know about what he had to do in order to come from well behind the leading pack to win it. It's not like it was handed to him the moment the race started where folks were no more than fueling the confirmation bias of that type of narrative.
 

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I don’t even have a problem with Joker it’s the media breh. They consistently move the goalposts for him. Last year seeding didn’t matter when it came to MVP…but now that it benefits him it matters. shyt is comical to watch…Book/Joel are better than me cause I’d be pissed.
Bingo!! Joker a baller but the media mental gymnastics for him is :scusthov:
 

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Bingo!! Joker a baller but the media mental gymnastics for him is :scusthov:
Lmao dawg when the media started bringing up playoff seeding as if more than one or two games separates the west is when I knew. Seeding didn’t matter for Jo and Book but now it matters…shyt is hilarious. Just say y’all wanna give it to Joker and keep it moving.
 
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Bingo!! Joker a baller but the media mental gymnastics for him is :scusthov:
Lmao dawg when the media started bringing up playoff seeding as if more than one or two games separates the west is when I knew. Seeding didn’t matter for Jo and Book but now it matters…shyt is hilarious. Just say y’all wanna give it to Joker and keep it moving.
Embiid wasn't on a team that was a #1 seed, and there was the narrative that CP3 was the Suns best player during the first half of the season.

Not even remotely the same thing.

The only mental gymnastics that is occurring is y'all trying to justify why he isn't deserving, which you've done for the last two years now.
 

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Luka is one of the most disliked stars on this board. Folks were once upon a time praying for him to be a bust.

I'm trying to work out, exactly, how this is relevant?

The stars have aligned over the last two seasons for Jokic, well, one could argue he pretty much aligned them himself, dragging his team to being as competitive as they were, where no other player was able to generate a better narrative than him because of it. If he deserves it for a third time, then that's just the way it is. Just because it hasn't been done before under the same circumstances doesn't mean he's not deserving.

The fact this man has been a footnote in the MVP conversation heading into the last two years, and even well into both those seasons, should tell you all you need to know about what he had to do in order to come from well behind the leading pack to win it. It's not like it was handed to him the moment the race started where folks were no more than fueling the confirmation bias of that type of narrative.

3 In a row means you are by far the best player in the game. And probably leading the strongest team success.

Whoever wins the East, their best player is probably the MVP.

Joker would have to win a ring before his time is up to justify 3 in a row. Mike's name is on the trophy and they ain't give it to him three straight. Lol.
 
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To guarantee winning the MVP, all you have to do is lead your team to a number 1 seed as the sole superstar player on the team whilst putting up historical stats for the position you play.

Voter fatigue cannot effect Jokic if he accomplishes this feat because no logical reason can be made to give another player the MVP
 
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3 In a row means you are by far the best player in the game. And probably leading the strongest team success.

Whoever wins the East, their best player is probably the MVP.
3 in a row doesn't mean anything other than he fitted the criteria in each of those seasons. It just so happened that other candidates didn't have better arguments than he did. There hasn't been a 60+ win team with a clear-cut #1 guy over the last two years and Jokic benefitted from that. No reasonable person can come out and say that a player was robbed over the last two years because there isn't a player that had a definitive case over him.
 
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Anyone bringing up Booker should've won last season shouldn't be taken seriously.

NBA MVP Ladder: Chris Paul Is Coming for Steph, Giannis, Embiid and Jokic

Notice how midway through the season CP3 was listed as the Suns' candidate for MVP and not Booker? Both of their MVP chances were affected by the fact nobody could really make up their minds on who was more important/impactful for the team. In similar vein to the Warriors winning 67 games in 2017 (both Steph and KD took votes away from one another), and then Westbrook won the MVP on a team that only won 47 games as a 6th seed.

It's funny how some of y'all conveniently ignore history when it doesn't fit your agenda.
 

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Embiid wasn't on a team that was a #1 seed, and there was the narrative that CP3 was the Suns best player during the first half of the season.

Not even remotely the same thing.

The only mental gymnastics that is occurring is y'all trying to justify why he isn't deserving, which you've done for the last two years now.
Embiid was on the 1 seed two years ago but it didn’t matter. Book was last year..Booker has been the best Suns player the whole time CP3 has been there. Quit buying the media CP3 leadership bullshyt..you watch the games. You know the truth
 

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3 in a row doesn't mean anything other than he fitted the criteria in each of those seasons. It just so happened that other candidates didn't have better arguments than he did. There hasn't been a 60+ win team with a clear-cut #1 guy over the last two years and Jokic benefitted from that. No reasonable person can come out and say that a player was robbed over the last two years because there isn't a player that had a definitive case over him.

This the era of Giannis. These are his awards.

Because he's great. He's already chip'd and his team regular season success is 55-65 wins.

Joker winning 3 in a row on Greaks time is silly.
 

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Embiid was on the 1 seed two years ago but it didn’t matter. Book was last year..Booker has been the best Suns player the whole time CP3 has been there. Quit buying the media CP3 leadership bullshyt..you watch the games. You know the truth

perhaps but the narrative was that adding cp3 took them to the next level not bookers play
 

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perhaps but the narrative was that adding cp3 took them to the next level not bookers play
He certainly helped but it was obvious in the bubble that the Suns were not a joke anymore. And that was with them having Rubio run point
 
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Embiid was on the 1 seed two years ago but it didn’t matter.
The 76ers only won 49 games to Denver's 47.

You know cotdamn well that winning that few amount of games, even as a #1 seed, doesn't give you any great value in the MVP race. Joel only played 51 games that season, and you know too, that affected his chances. Jokic ended up playing 72, so of course, it stands to reason voters sided with him given he played 20+ more games.

If Embiid played a similar amount of games he likely would've won.
Booker has been the best Suns player the whole time CP3 has been there. Quit buying the media CP3 leadership bullshyt..you watch the games. You know the truth
It doesn't matter what I think.

Did you catch my post above yours?

How the fukk did Booker deserve to win it last season when CP3 was talked up as the Suns' MVP candidate for over half the season (links posted above)? When has the MVP ever been awarded to a player who wasn't even seen as the best player of his team for over half the season? You wanted them to give Booker the MVP all because he happened to have a narrative manufactured for him over the last 30-40% of the season? What about the Warriors winning 67 games in 2017, and neither Steph or Durant were in the top-5 for votes. Why was it not a problem for you back then, but it is now?
 
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