"Joker: Folie a Deux" | sequel to "Joker" starring Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga

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Depite what some are saying(Bryan Danielson) . This movie isnt canon to the GunnaVerse:wow:
Doesn't matter. The average movie goer has no idea what the "gunnaverse" is. All they know is everything DC drops...flops.

James Gunn coming in the game halfway through the first quarter after Westbrook done gone 6 for 27 and they down 17. Dude going to have to hit everything he throw up AND a couple of and 1's to pull this out.
 

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Doesn't matter. The average movie goer has no idea what the "gunnaverse" is. All they know is everything DC drops...flops.

James Gunn coming in the game halfway through the first quarter after Westbrook done gone 6 for 27 and they down 17. Dude going to have to hit everything he throw up AND a couple of and 1's to pull this out.



By that logic the average movie goer doesnt know what DC is,nor or they keeping track of the flops. But EVERY fan of comic book movies knows one thing. And thats the D.C's universe begins and ends with Superman:wow:


So no matter how good your little Batman film does,or how a Wonder Woman or Aqua Man movie might do. There will be zero momentum if superman isnt any good. Its to the point if this Superman movie flops,D.C might as well pack it up for a few years and plan another reboot.
 

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Todd Phillips is probably trolling the white bros that view Arthur as an aspirational figure

thats what my boy was saying they didn't expect people to like arthur in the first one and root for him so they had to make this gay ass shyt to get back at these people lmao. that's the only thing that makes sense no way they really thought this would be good. I cannot believe they are that out of touch.
I don't buy this. The movie is basically about a man with a mental illness who was physically and emotionally abused his whole life and then finally snaps. Of course the director wanted people to empathize with Arthur. Maybe not look up to him, but he definitely didn't mean to demonize Arthur. He's basically Carrie, without the super powers. This sequel was just utterly pointless from the start.
 

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Todd Phillips is probably trolling the white bros that view Arthur as an aspirational figure

thats what my boy was saying they didn't expect people to like arthur in the first one and root for him so they had to make this gay ass shyt to get back at these people lmao. that's the only thing that makes sense no way they really thought this would be good. I cannot believe they are that out of touch.

overall i think this joint is big deliberate slap in the face for those that saw him as a hero from the first movie. and i think they deserved it

I'm interested in this convo, males have long wanted to emulate charismatic villains but I was shocked that some dudes walked away from the first film not only seeing themselves in Arthur but positioning him as a hero

This is COMPLETE BULLshyt :mjlol:


As @The_Truth said they clearly made a point in the first movie to show and make Arthur a tragic sympathetic character who was the product of a society that failed him as it did not properly look after people with severe mental issues.

He was BRAIN DAMAGED as a result of being ABUSED as a CHILD where he's now a DELUSIONAL and UNDERDEVLOPED adult who eventually COSPLAYS as The Joker. He was basically Lennie from of Mice and Men. But now y'all coming out with this REVISIONIST BULLshyt as if the you were meant to see him as a regular competent "bad" man. Why the fukk would they give him the backstory they did along with entire movie have him getting MISTREATED and abused if this was the case? :laff:


If what you're saying is true he would have been like Jake Gyllenhall's character in Nightcrawler

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who had ZERO redeeming qualities and written to be a clear unsympathetic character you are meant to DESPISE.
 

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By that logic the average movie goer doesnt know what DC is,nor or they keeping track of the flops. But EVERY fan of comic book movies knows one thing. And thats the D.C's universe begins and ends with Superman:wow:


So no matter how good your little Batman film does,or how a Wonder Woman or Aqua Man movie might do. There will be zero momentum if superman isnt any good. Its to the point if this Superman movie flops,D.C might as well pack it up for a few years and plan another reboot.
People dgaf about superman tbh. They act like they do. But they don't. Superman Returns was wack sauce and no one cared. MoS underperformed and no one gaf about BvS. And No one gave a fukk about JL.

Batman will always be number 1. Superman just came first. Gunn is overrated and he might drop a flop here. We shall see.
 

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People dgaf about superman tbh. They act like they do. But they don't. Superman Returns was wack sauce and no one cared. MoS underperformed and no one gaf about BvS. And No one gave a fukk about JL.

Batman will always be number 1. Superman just came first. Gunn is overrated and he might drop a flop here. We shall see.
People dgaf about superman tbh. They act like they do. But they don't. Superman Returns was wack sauce and no one cared. MoS underperformed and no one gaf about BvS. And No one gave a fukk about JL.

Batman will always be number 1. Superman just came first. Gunn is overrated and he might drop a flop here. We shall see.


That was all due to Zack Snyder. Making those horrible non fun,non kid friendly films. SuperMan Returns I just recall people comparing it to Christopher Reeves movies . Sorta like people did with Amazing Spiderman comparing it to the Raimi films. Not only do people expect these movies to be fun because of Gunn. They will be compared to those mid Zack Snyder movies rather than classics. This is a different time,MCU is dying and have nothing to distract us with. Superman has the worlds undivided attention. He is basically comic book movies last hope for the forseeable future.
 
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