Kenny West
Veteran
My god this forum is already reverting back to "b b but would you rather Trump" esque excuses for shytty behavior in record time.
Joe Manchin: I won’t vote for For The People Act or Weaken/Eliminate Filibuster!
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Armchair Militant
Stay woke
Why hasn’t Biden strangled this guy in the Oval Office yet?
"Conservative West Virginia Senator refuses to be progressive, therefore we should hand power back to the regressive party and see if we can fukk up the courts for eternity."
Incredible strategy.
I usually don't feel that way but when I heard the news on the radio today I immediately wanted to hand out fades.
Only if its pure tax/spending stuff. So they could use reconciliation to pass the infrastructure bill cause that's just a tax-and-spending bill (if Manchin eventually agrees to go along with that), but they can't use it to pass a Voting Rights bill or a Police Reform bill.
Ozymandeas
Veteran
What does Manchin want? 
And more importantly, who the fukk does he think he is? Nobody knows what the Senator of Montana thinks or what the Senator of New Hampshire thinks, yet this muthafukka stays in the media constantly. What a trash politician. But then again, his mentor was a former KKK member and the governor of his state ran as a Democrat only to switch back to Republican when Trump came in power. He's no different than them.
And more importantly, who the fukk does he think he is? Nobody knows what the Senator of Montana thinks or what the Senator of New Hampshire thinks, yet this muthafukka stays in the media constantly. What a trash politician. But then again, his mentor was a former KKK member and the governor of his state ran as a Democrat only to switch back to Republican when Trump came in power. He's no different than them.
AquaCityBoy
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Ozymandeas
Veteran
This is such a spoiled privileged whiny post. Only an American who never experienced living in a nightmare authoritarian dictatorship could ask how much different could it be. Things could be very different.
Most other countries civilian population don't have 300+ million guns either. Though I do see your point
AnonymityX1000
Veteran
Only having the ability of voting for one party or you risk being called what was it a "spoiled and privledged" actually feels like an authorian dictatorahip. lol
They won't have to concern troll about the fear of Trump much longer; GOP will retake the house in a landslide next year off of bullshyt like this, impeach that walking embalmed corpse Biden, and clear the way for Cheeto's triumphant return all before we even get to 2024.
"B-b--bu duh Republicans are even worse" yeah, and enabling and excusing donor class democratic leadership that caters to Republican interests over the people who actually voted for you under the farce of "bipartisanship" is a fantastic way to get them back into office with a supermajority like they never even left. 
Chucklefukk Manchin ain't the only member of the party who feels this way btw, for y'all saying "ItS jUsT oNe GuY", not even close. The agents who agree with him just aren't gonna do it publicly and are using him as cover to hide behind while he draws all the attention and headlines over it.
They won't have to concern troll about the fear of Trump much longer; GOP will retake the house in a landslide next year off of bullshyt like this, impeach that walking embalmed corpse Biden, and clear the way for Cheeto's triumphant return all before we even get to 2024.
Chucklefukk Manchin ain't the only member of the party who feels this way btw, for y'all saying "ItS jUsT oNe GuY", not even close. The agents who agree with him just aren't gonna do it publicly and are using him as cover to hide behind while he draws all the attention and headlines over it.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
This is a disingenuous statement. Protecting voting rights is not a progressive position. Its the bare fukking minimal. As is having a commission on what the fukk happened on January 6th. No one is expecting Manchin to vote for universal healthcare or making unionization a right. We are asking him to protect voting rights. He, and several other Democrats, refusing to do so. THat's not a progressive policy position, that is protecting the small portion of this democracy we have left.
If Manchin, and the other democrats that align with him, would rather protect the filibuster over voting rights, then they are no different than Republicans.
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i think its a packaged deal... removing the fillibuster "for voting rights", makes way for lots of other stuff he may or may not be against.
Speaking on "Fox News Sunday," Manchin said the bill, known as the For the People Act, "is the wrong piece of legislation to bring our country together and unite our country, and I'm not supporting that because I think it will divide us further."
"I am open to any conversation about the provisions of this bill, and will not give up on American democracy," he said.
"Voting and election reform that is done in a partisan manner will all but ensure partisan divisions continue to deepen," he wrote.
"My Republican colleague, Sen. Lisa Murkowski, has joined me in urging Senate leadership to update and pass this bill through regular order," he wrote.
He also attacked Democrats for seeking to eliminate the filibuster, saying "absolute power corrupts absolutely."
"What I’ve seen during my time in Washington is that every party in power will always want to exercise absolute power, absolutely. Our founders were wise to see the temptation of absolute power and built in specific checks and balances to force compromise that serves to preserve our fragile democracy," he wrote.
"I am open to any conversation about the provisions of this bill, and will not give up on American democracy," he said.
"Voting and election reform that is done in a partisan manner will all but ensure partisan divisions continue to deepen," he wrote.
"My Republican colleague, Sen. Lisa Murkowski, has joined me in urging Senate leadership to update and pass this bill through regular order," he wrote.
He also attacked Democrats for seeking to eliminate the filibuster, saying "absolute power corrupts absolutely."
"What I’ve seen during my time in Washington is that every party in power will always want to exercise absolute power, absolutely. Our founders were wise to see the temptation of absolute power and built in specific checks and balances to force compromise that serves to preserve our fragile democracy," he wrote.
Hood Critic
The Power Circle
That's the big picture we're getting at here...everything can be undone with a majority. Can the Dems use their power to protect election and voting rights to ensure a majority will of the people or do they do nothing and allow Repubs to ensure a House majority into next decade through gerrymandering and redistricting.
The Dems have to at minimum get the non-partisan redistricting legislation passed.
Hood Critic
The Power Circle
Speaking on "Fox News Sunday," Manchin said the bill, known as the For the People Act, "is the wrong piece of legislation to bring our country together and unite our country, and I'm not supporting that because I think it will divide us further."
"I am open to any conversation about the provisions of this bill, and will not give up on American democracy," he said.
"Voting and election reform that is done in a partisan manner will all but ensure partisan divisions continue to deepen," he wrote.
"My Republican colleague, Sen. Lisa Murkowski, has joined me in urging Senate leadership to update and pass this bill through regular order," he wrote.
He also attacked Democrats for seeking to eliminate the filibuster, saying "absolute power corrupts absolutely."
"What I’ve seen during my time in Washington is that every party in power will always want to exercise absolute power, absolutely. Our founders were wise to see the temptation of absolute power and built in specific checks and balances to force compromise that serves to preserve our fragile democracy," he wrote.
This entire sentiment is how you know Manchin is talking out of both sides of his mouth. You can't claim to want to avoid partisan politics by completely ignoring one side while simultaneously sabotaging the other. And Murkowski holds about as much weight with Senate leadership as Scaramucci did in the Trump administration.