Joe Manchin: I won’t vote for For The People Act or Weaken/Eliminate Filibuster!

[GodinDaFlesh]

This is what Biden wants, it gives him a convenient excuse to not do shyt now and when the Republicans take the Congress next year.

 

[GhostoftheMan]

Where the people saying Manchin would fall in line? All this does is make people disillusioned whether right or wrong. Excuses are worthless

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[the next guy]

Joe Manchin will cause a huge amount of depressed voters.

 

[Corny Batman]

What does Manchin want? And more importantly, who the fukk does he think he is? Nobody knows what the Senator of Montana thinks or what the Senator of New Hampshire thinks, yet this muthafukka stays in the media constantly. What a trash politician. But then again, his mentor was a former KKK member and the governor of his state ran as a Democrat only to switch back to Republican when Trump came in power. He's no different than them.

There's a reason this is all playing out so publicly and getting headlines. Biden needs a fall guy to take the heat for his refusal to carry out any of the "progressive" campaign promises he borrowed from Bernie. He never intended to do any of that shyt. He has no intention of even trying. But he can't admit that, so he needs his good old buddy West Virginia Joe to put on a big performance.

That's why all these centrists are having meltdowns. They are the target audience for this show.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

This is the part of the movie where the Dems all get angry at each other as if there was anything that could have been done with such a slim majority in the first place

 

[Professor Emeritus]

This is a disingenuous statement. Protecting voting rights is not a progressive position. Its the bare fukking minimal. As is having a commission on what the fukk happened on January 6th. No one is expecting Manchin to vote for universal healthcare or making unionization a right. We are asking him to protect voting rights. He, and several other Democrats, refusing to do so. THat's not a progressive policy position, that is protecting the small portion of this democracy we have left.

If Manchin, and the other democrats that align with him, would rather protect the filibuster over voting rights, then they are no different than Republicans.

If it was bare fukking minimal then they would have done it earlier.

No matter how obvious we think legislation is, if it's "more liberal than anything they've done before" then it's progressive by definition. But that's neither here nor there. My main point is that I don't understand the logic of punishing other Democrats for Manchin's behavior.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Speaking on "Fox News Sunday," Manchin said the bill, known as the For the People Act, "is the wrong piece of legislation to bring our country together and unite our country, and I'm not supporting that because I think it will divide us further."

"I am open to any conversation about the provisions of this bill, and will not give up on American democracy," he said.

"Voting and election reform that is done in a partisan manner will all but ensure partisan divisions continue to deepen," he wrote.

"My Republican colleague, Sen. Lisa Murkowski, has joined me in urging Senate leadership to update and pass this bill through regular order," he wrote.

He also attacked Democrats for seeking to eliminate the filibuster, saying "absolute power corrupts absolutely."

"What I’ve seen during my time in Washington is that every party in power will always want to exercise absolute power, absolutely. Our founders were wise to see the temptation of absolute power and built in specific checks and balances to force compromise that serves to preserve our fragile democracy," he wrote.

Can you explain what is partisan about the bill other than the fact that Republicans want to restrict voting rights?

 

[mastermind]

If it was bare fukking minimal then they would have done it earlier.

No matter how obvious we think legislation is, if it's "more liberal than anything they've done before" then it's progressive by definition. But that's neither here nor there. My main point is that I don't understand the logic of punishing other Democrats for Manchin's behavior.

Well the party caucus isn’t pushing for something that is urgent, so I get punishing everyone for it.

And the voting rights bills aren’t more progressive than the ‘65 VRA, relative to the times. It’s disingenuous to argue that.

 

[Dr. Acula]

"Conservative West Virginia Senator refuses to be progressive, therefore we should hand power back to the regressive party and see if we can fukk up the courts for eternity."

Incredible strategy.

Check out my subsequent posts. It is not just Manchin or Sinema. They have a silent coalition behind them and they are just the ones willing to be the punching bag for all the criticism. Having one or two bad guys who can point to as "If it just wasn't for this one guy, well shoot we will be great!" makes a compelling narrative for the media but it is not the reality.

It's a tiring dynamic, to say the least. At some point, people like me ask what is the value in participating in a system that seems to be a bait and switch constantly? It is like dealing with a chick who constantly wants to play games throughout a relationship.

 

[jj23]

This is what the democrats should have said

 

[Geek Nasty]

The mainstream (AKA moderate republican) media keeps treating this guy like he's a superstar when really he's just 1/50 Democrats who decided to stop Biden on all fronts. ANY Senator could be doing exactly what he is. They need to take his ass behind the woodshed and completely blacklist his state

 

[King Static X]

 

[duncanthetall]

Lol I was told not to worry about Manchin. All the smart HL Dems know so much more than us lowly progressives. He’s gonna fall right in line they say.

Pathetic

 

[Corny Batman]

Here's one of the people who owns the Democratic party:



Manchin and Biden are doing exactly what they are told to do.