Joe Manchin: I won’t vote for For The People Act or Weaken/Eliminate Filibuster!

[AnonymityX1000]

Think a West Virginia Republican would do your social program loving ass any favors

I would never vote Republican. lol

 

[Outlaw]

I would never vote Republican. lol

If Joe Manchin wasn’t in power do you think West Virginia would elect someone from the green or people’s party?

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Multiple parties would only work in a parliamentary system. Our government isn’t set up like that so any third party vote is a vote against your interest

So let's try and make a new and better party than the one supposedly representing our interests. We have to be able to think past the next election.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

If Joe Manchin wasn’t in power do you think West Virginia would elect someone from the green or people’s party?

Does it matter? He is a Dem and is undermining the party. What is having a Dem Senator from WV getting us? Oh nothing. lol

 

[Outlaw]

Does it matter? He is a Dem and is undermining the party. What is having a Dem Senator from WV getting us? Oh nothing. lol

Actually it’s got us a vote for this past stimulus package. The issue is relying on someone like Joe Manchin due to a narrow majority. If we had a greater majority in the senate his power would be diminished. Why don’t you understand this?

 

[Outlaw]

So let's try and make a new and better party than the one supposedly representing our interests. We have to be able to think past the next election.

How do you think we could get a more democratic system in place when the opposing side doesn’t even want your black ass to vote?

 

[Dr. Acula]

Folks are focused on Joe Manchin and Sinema being the baddy not realizing they are deliberate foils for parts of the democratic party. They supposedly have many democrats who silently support them and view them as the tip of the spear in pushing back on progressive demands.

See this
Joe Manchin: Deeply Disappointed in GOP and Prepared to Do Absolutely Nothing

Yet, there’s a sense among Democrats that when Manchin speaks, he’s not only speaking for himself—he’s speaking for a broader cohort of senators who share his views but not his love of the spotlight or tolerance for scrutiny.

For many observers, the proof was in the vote on raising the federal minimum wage to $15 as part of the COVID relief package. Ahead of the vote, much of the heat had focused on Manchin, with press hounding him daily over what figures he’d support; news articles trumpeted him as the “toughest foe” for those aiming to raise the wage to $15. Ultimately, though, Manchin was just one of eight Senate Democrats to vote against the proposal.

“A lot of members are happy Joe Manchin is the tip of the spear, getting shot at every day,” a Democratic aide told The Daily Beast. “Seven or eight of them stand behind him.”

It's not unreasonable to assume that Biden himself secretly believes the same. Notice how he has started to work on backtracking on certain things. Not even entertaining a 10k forgiveness for student loans anymore.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Actually it’s got us a vote for this past stimulus package. The issue is relying on someone like Joe Manchin due to a narrow majority. If we had a greater majority in the senate his power would be diminished. Why don’t you understand this?

That he shorted after the elections in GA. lol
What are the prospects of the Dems getting a larger majority in the Senate? I understand completely I'm just not buying the atrategy anymore.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

How do you think we could get a more democratic system in place when the opposing side doesn’t even want your black ass to vote?

It's starts with at least an attempt. You're not even down for that?

 

[wire28]

If you say so. Buy voting blue no matter who that got us the likes of Joe Manchin didn't require any brainwashing I'm sure.

west virginia actually got us manchin

i think we'd all agree whether the winner was GQP, or "Dem" the result wasnt going to be too favorable for the interests of the rest of the actual country

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Folks are focused on Joe Manchin and Sinema being the baddy not realizing they are deliberate foils for parts of the democratic party. They supposedly have many democrats who silently support them and view them as the tip of the spear in pushing back on progressive demands.

See this
Joe Manchin: Deeply Disappointed in GOP and Prepared to Do Absolutely Nothing



It's not unreasonable to assume that Biden himself secretly believes the same. Notice how he has started to work on backtracking on certain things. Not even entertaining a 10k forgiveness for student loans anymore.

Dems are just playing good cop to their constituents in comparison to the evil Republican bad cop. But remember they are both cops scheming against you the person they need to get info from so they stay in power.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

west virginia actually got us manchin

i think we'd all agree whether the winner was GQP, or "Dem" the result wasnt going to be too favorable for the interests of the rest of the actual country

Yeah so this is America, pols who just work for corporations and do just enough to keep 51% of the country believing in the political system.
Voting is your civic duty but when the people in power aren't interested in doing what they say when trying to win your vote why do we keep voting for them? I'm going to try something different wish more people would join me.

 

[wire28]

It's starts with at least an attempt. You're not even down for that?

that "attempt" means you are willing to accept whatever the GQP gives you in the future if your attempt fails. they are giving you an appetizer right now. i presume that means you are willing to take the full course

 

[AnonymityX1000]

that "attempt" means you are willing to accept whatever the GQP gives you in the future if your attempt fails. they are giving you an appetizer right now. i presume that means you are willing to take the full course

Yeah, how is that any different than living thru the Trump era that we all just did even though we were good soldiers and voted for Hillary? They been lying to us. So this warning 'it could be worse' isn't resonating, sorry. You got to stop believing liars eventually right?

 

[wire28]

Yeah, how is that any different than living thru the Trump era that we all just did even though we were good soldiers and voted for Hillary? They been lying to us. So this warning 'it could be worse' isn't resonating, sorry. You got to stop believing liars eventually right?

i mean it actually likely will be worse. we just had an insurrection and had no idea if people were going to actually do the right thing, even simple things like approving results.

if you are willing to let GQP, Q believers and etc be in charge of approving election results, then more power to you

edit: and trust me i am with you on politicians being liars. 99% go in for the wrong reasons and of the other 1%, half of them get turned out when they are in office