Joe Manchin: I won’t vote for For The People Act or Weaken/Eliminate Filibuster!

Is the Democrats’ legislative agenda finished in the Biden era?


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Piff Perkins

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Dems have a chance to gain seats in the senate. If they manage to keep the house (which will be hard and possibly impossible), just adding a couple senate seats will invalidate Manchin’s power.

If he holds up the infrastructure bill through this month while demanding Biden negotiate with republicans who are clearly negotiating in bad faith, democrats need to move on. Implement reconciliation, fill it with West Virginia money, and dare him to vote against the bill.
 
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Oh when we voted for Hillary what happened breh?
And now that Biden's in office nothing sweeping is going to happen to fix Trump's kess base on Manchin.
But before you say it, I know it could be worse. :mjlol:
Dude. Voting for a third party is the equivalent of throwing away your vote. Not only do they have no chance but you'll also be splitting the left wing vote which would ensure the Republicans win.
 

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Oh when we voted for Hillary what happened breh?
And now that Biden's in office nothing sweeping is going to happen to fix Trump's kess base on Manchin.
But before you say it, I know it could be worse. :mjlol:
Are you deluded? We were a couple of unlucky breaks away from Trump’s goons killing his political enemies in congress on January sixth.
 

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Dems have a chance to gain seats in the senate. If they manage to keep the house (which will be hard and possibly impossible), just adding a couple senate seats will invalidate Manchin’s power.

If he holds up the infrastructure bill through this month while demanding Biden negotiate with republicans who are clearly negotiating in bad faith, democrats need to move on. Implement reconciliation, fill it with West Virginia money, and dare him to vote against the bill.

This is why I laugh when people suggest nothing can be done. It’s politics and deal making. Make an offer he can’t refuse.

Put WV giveaways in the bill and full court press his ass as need be. What’s the point of him being a del if he’s not going to vote on needed legislation.

breh comes out with this dog whistle “this bill would further weaken our :mjplease: democracy” …lean on his fukking ass and if you lose a seat you lose a seat.
 

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This is why I laugh when people suggest nothing can be done. It’s politics and deal making. Make an offer he can’t refuse.

Put WV giveaways in the bill and full court press his ass as need be. What’s the point of him being a del if he’s not going to vote on needed legislation.

breh comes out with this dog whistle “this bill would further weaken our :mjplease: democracy” …lean on his fukking ass and if you lose a seat you lose a seat.
How many governors of Republican states didn't take Fed money just to stick it to Obama regarding M4A?
Many are not interested in helping even people in their own state if it means crossing their corporate masters. The system is broken.
 

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Dems have a chance to gain seats in the senate. If they manage to keep the house (which will be hard and possibly impossible), just adding a couple senate seats will invalidate Manchin’s power.

If he holds up the infrastructure bill through this month while demanding Biden negotiate with republicans who are clearly negotiating in bad faith, democrats need to move on. Implement reconciliation, fill it with West Virginia money, and dare him to vote against the bill.
So they can do another reconciliation bill like that?
 
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