Joe Biden selects Senator Kamala Harris as his VP Pick

[Outlaw]

I don't think you fully understand who Susan Rice is.

She's a fairly accomplished black iwoman (Brookings Institute fellow) ...check.
She's 55 years old, so age isn't a concern....check.
She has worked closely with Biden in the past, she knows how the WH is supposed to function....check.
She was a US Ambassador, server on the NSC and National Security Advisor. There is no other woman on Biden's list who has that type of experience or could be that useful as VP....check.
She is not an activist or overly outspoken individual who wouldn't scare the moderates...check.

The only blemishes on her would be image related but are not serious - her supposed illegal meeting with Clinton on the tarmac, that's been debunked and she broke typical protocol of ex-officials about keeping their opinions about their colleagues out of the media when she called Turtle Mitch a lying piece of sh*t on one of the Pod Save episodes. And for the black militant twitter brigade, like Harris, she's married to a white man.

None of those are deal breakers. Matter of fact, those could be used to her advantage if need be.

The more I think about it, she is probably Biden's best candidate and will more than like be his pick.

EDIT: And a quick search on her - her parents were incredibly fcking accomplished, wow I didn't even know these things. She's got legit VP stock as a DC native, daughter of one of the designers of the Pell Grant and second black governor of the Federal Reserve.

The fact that her son is a Trump supporter makes all of that null and void as a VP pick. Not worth the optics

 

[BillBanneker]

With the way things are trending I don’t think where they are now is a success. Freedom Caucus while vile in many a way worked but they abandoned that for Trump and is headed towards a washout.

I think @FAH1223 posted an article about it before, but the typical right wing play (since Regan) is that when a dem is in office, republicans revert exactly to that and it works for their base. Considering that (if) Biden is elected, the executive response regarding cov-19 is much more hands on with the preventive measures (masks, controlled openings, even the vaccine if it isn't available til later ), which plays right into the "muh freedom" narrative the right likes to do.

Add any other large legislative agendas the dems try to pass, don't be surprised when they do a variation of that.

 

[Hood Critic]

You all are so disillusioned by Trump and his sycophants feeding you bullsh*t on a daily basis that you don't realize that all of that beating people over the head with non-truths and sensationalized headlines has no real bearing outside of his base.

 

[Outlaw]

You all are so disillusioned by Trump and his sycophants feeding you bullsh*t on a daily basis that you don't realize that all of that beating people over the head with non-truths and sensationalized headlines has no real bearing outside of his base.

If she can’t convince her own son that Trumpism is a blight to America, why should she be second in command of the opposition party?

 

[Hood Critic]

If she can’t convince her own son that Trumpism is a blight to America, why should she be second in command of the opposition party?

Because what her son believes has no merit on what she has done in 20+ years as a democrat or will do. This line of thinking is just as silly as harping on the fact that at one point in her life Warren was a Republican. It does not have bearing on what she has done through the last several years of her life and what she is doing now.

The uncomfortable Rice holiday dinners does not effect the US or how it's governed.

 

[GodinDaFlesh]

Susan Rice is too tied up with Bengazi, and by association, Hillary. Plus she really has no base outside of foreign policy wonks, in a year that's all about domestic policy. So basically she brings nothing to the table but baggage.

 

[The ADD]

Susan Rice is too tied up with Bengazi, and by association, Hillary. Plus she really has no base outside of foreign policy wonks, in a year that's all about domestic policy. So basically she brings nothing to the table but baggage.

Biden can handle domestic? Likely better than way anyway.

 

[Outlaw]

Because what her son believes has no merit on what she has done in 20+ years as a democrat or will do. This line of thinking is just as silly as harping on the fact that at one point in her life Warren was a Republican. It does not have bearing on what she has done through the last several years of her life and what she is doing now.

The uncomfortable Rice holiday dinners does not effect the US or how it's governed.

Sure she has the resume to be a VP and in a perfect world it shouldn’t matter that her son is a Trump supporter but we don’t live in a perfect world. The optics of her son being a Trump supporter would do more harm than good in my opinion. Trump would definitely overhype that dynamic as well. I just don’t see picking Rice as a net positive for Biden

 

[The ADD]

Sure she has the resume to be a VP and in a perfect world it shouldn’t matter that her son is a Trump supporter but we don’t live in a perfect world. The optics of her son being a Trump supporter would do more harm than good in my opinion. Trump would definitely overhype that dynamic as well. I just don’t see picking Rice as a net positive for Biden

Harm how is the question. So that’s going to be the breaking point with people (the section of people not sold on Trump) as opposed 150K dead from COVID-19? If anything parents would sympathize because children gone children. Further kids are generally out of play on campaigns. Trump can go there but that shyt ain’t going to land. You see how well “Where is Hunter?” Is fairing these days.......

 

[Hood Critic]

Susan Rice is too tied up with Bengazi, and by association, Hillary. Plus she really has no base outside of foreign policy wonks, in a year that's all about domestic policy. So basically she brings nothing to the table but baggage.

I want you to ask 3 people you know about Benghazi and see what they can tell you about it. Nobody outside of Fox news can tell you anything about Benghazi. People know Susan Rice worked for Obama.

 

[Piff Perkins]

Susan Rice doesn't move the dial. Might be a good pick for someone like Beto if he was the nominee and needed someone with foreign policy experience. But Biden? No. Seems like the campaign just giving a nod to Obama's people. I could see her in the cabinet for sure.

Kamala or Warren. No one else matters IMO.

 

[The ADD]

Susan Rice doesn't move the dial. Might be a good pick for someone like Beto if he was the nominee and needed someone with foreign policy experience. But Biden? No. Seems like the campaign just giving a nod to Obama's people. I could see her in the cabinet for sure.

Kamala or Warren. No one else matters IMO.

She moves the dial a ton with an Barrack/Michelle co-sign and the fact she’s black. The holes in her nomination are no greater than anyone else if we are being reasonably objective here guise.

 

[Outlaw]

Harm how is the question. So that’s going to be the breaking point with people (the section of people not sold on Trump) as opposed 150K dead from COVID-19? If anything parents would sympathize because children gone children. Further kids are generally out of play on campaigns. Trump can go there but that shyt ain’t going to land. You see how well “Where is Hunter?” Is fairing these days.......

She’s suppose to convince America to not give 4 more years to Trump when she can’t even convince her own son? (Especially when Trump has directly slandered her?) The optics are horrible

What if her son came out and started to campaign for Trump?

 

[The ADD]

She’s suppose to convince America to not give 4 more years to Trump when she can’t even convince her own son? (Especially when Trump has directly slandered her?) The optics are horrible

What if her son came out and started to campaign for Trump?

Again that’s going to ring hollow with a lot of people. It’s kind of a silly argument in general and in this climate. Her son has no standing in politics so he’s not influencing much of anyone. Most people get that children are not their parents and eventually go there own way.

Really step back and think how that’s a good attack point for them to “undecided” voters. It’s flat not a factor in actual campaign.

 

[Hood Critic]

Susan Rice doesn't move the dial. Might be a good pick for someone like Beto if he was the nominee and needed someone with foreign policy experience. But Biden? No. Seems like the campaign just giving a nod to Obama's people. I could see her in the cabinet for sure.

Kamala or Warren. No one else matters IMO.

You all keep making the mistake of thinking the VP selection is about you and not the party.

She’s suppose to convince America to not give 4 more years to Trump when she can’t even convince her own son? (Especially when Trump has directly slandered her?) The optics are horrible

What if her son came out and started to campaign for Trump?

She doesn't have to convince America of anything, that's Biden's job. And she's been anti-Trump since he took office so again, what is your point?