Joe Biden selects Senator Kamala Harris as his VP Pick

[The ADD]

Neither did Hunter Biden, you underestimate republicans ability to grill up nothing burgers

Again that doesn't seem to be doing well. Further if they are spending any air time on her non-public son they are throwing away resources with the group of the electorate is going to help him when.

 

[Outlaw]

Of course they will, we know that mudslinging is something they've always specialized in and has become a major part of our political system. But at the end of the day, who's mind is that going to change or who is that going to sway?

It may depress some democratic enthusiasm but not enough to move the needle. Personally I’m completely turned off by Susan Rice after finding out she raised a Trump supporter. Extremely small sample size and I’m sure it means very little but I’d assume there’s others that agree with me. Just not worth it.

 

[Hood Critic]

It may depress some democratic enthusiasm but not enough to move the needle. Personally I’m completely turned off by Susan Rice after finding out she raised a Trump supporter. Extremely small sample size and I’m sure it means very little but I’d assume there’s others that agree with me. Just not worth it.

So the ultimate question is, would that keep you from voting for Biden?

That's rhetorical because I believe you and a lot of other people who may be turned off by Rice for various other real reasons, don't feel strongly enough about it to change your vote.

 

[The ADD]

It may depress some democratic enthusiasm but not enough to move the needle. Personally I’m completely turned off by Susan Rice after finding out she raised a Trump supporter. Extremely small sample size and I’m sure it means very little but I’d assume there’s others that agree with me. Just not worth it.

Do you have children? I don't admittedly but being turned of by candidate because her child supporters another candidate seems shortsighted from a parental perspective.

 

[Outlaw]

So the ultimate question is, would that keep you from voting for Biden?

That's rhetorical because I believe you and a lot of other people who may be turned off by Rice for various other real reasons, don't feel strongly enough about it to change your vote.

No it wouldn’t but I definitely wouldn’t support her as the nominee in the 2024 primaries which I assume is playing a part in the VP process

 

[Outlaw]

Do you have children? I don't admittedly but being turned of by candidate because her child supporters another candidate seems shortsighted from a parental perspective.

It’s not just another candidate it’s Trump. I would go as far as to say you failed as a parent if you’re a minority and your child is supporting Trump. Let’s also keep in mind Trump has slandered Rice directly and your son is still going to support that man? Naaah that’s a huge red flag to me

 

[Hood Critic]

No it wouldn’t but I definitely wouldn’t support her as the nominee in the 2024 primaries which I assume is playing a part in the VP process

Don't you think that's a little presumptuous to believe that she would automatically be elevated to that status in the party? Especially for someone who has never openly expressed interest in being POTUS?

I mean we knew Biden had POTUS aspirations before he became Obama's #2.

 

[Outlaw]

Don't you think that's a little presumptuous to believe that she would automatically be elevated to that status in the party? Especially for someone who has never openly expressed interest in being POTUS?

I mean we knew Biden had POTUS aspirations before he became Obama's #2.

Why would she accept the VP position if she did not have Presidential aspirations?

 

[The ADD]

It’s not just another candidate it’s Trump. I would go as far as to say you failed as a parent if you’re a minority and your child is supporting Trump. Let’s also keep in mind Trump has slandered Rice directly and your son is still going to support that man? Naaah that’s a huge red flag to me

But you didn't answer my question

 

[dtownreppin214]

No, she would be a horrible pick.

Yeah for the sake of you Habesha brehs, I hope she's not the pick although I do agree with @The ADD that she's probably being overlooked on here at least. Saw her interview on Maddow yesterday, and she looked like she knew she was deep in the running.

 

[Outlaw]

But you didn't answer my question

I don’t have kids but I believe how you raise your kids is a reflection of you. Sure it may not be fair but someone who can be President should be held to a higher standard.

 

[The ADD]

I don’t have kids but I believe how you raise your kids is a reflection of you. Sure it may not be fair but someone who can be President should be held to a higher standard.

This is the thing. Your view is very rooted in a personal belief that you don’t totally have experience in. You aren’t wrong but I think we have to look at this objectively relative to the bigger picture. The minute we start wholesale dismissing potential candidates because of who their non-public kids support then it’s not Higher Learning discussion IMO. Further I don’t we can use something that specific bad a true factor in a potential outcome.

 

[dtownreppin214]

I don't think you fully understand who Susan Rice is.

She's a fairly accomplished black woman (Brookings Institute fellow) ...check.
She's 55 years old, so age isn't a concern....check.
She has worked closely with Biden in the past, she knows how the WH is supposed to function....check.
She was a US Ambassador, server on the NSC and National Security Advisor. There is no other woman on Biden's list who has that type of experience or could be that useful as VP....check.
She is not an activist or overly outspoken individual who wouldn't scare the moderates...check.

The only blemishes on her would be image related but are not serious - her supposed illegal meeting with Clinton on the tarmac, that's been debunked and she broke typical protocol of ex-officials about keeping their opinions about their colleagues out of the media when she called Turtle Mitch a lying piece of sh*t on one of the Pod Save episodes. And for the black militant twitter brigade, like Harris, she's married to a white man.

None of those are deal breakers. Matter of fact, those could be used to her advantage if need be.

The more I think about it, she is probably Biden's best candidate and will more than like be his pick.

EDIT: And a quick search on her - her parents were incredibly fcking accomplished, wow I didn't even know these things. She's got legit VP stock as a DC native, daughter of one of the designers of the Pell Grant and second black governor of the Federal Reserve.

Agreed, she is highly accomplished. She's also an excellent communicator and would probably dismantle Pence in a debate. She can have a sharp tongue too, she's not one of these limp dikk Dems. But she's too hawkish for my taste. Biden needs an economic populist by his side to help him navigate the mess left for him. I don't think foreign policy is a top issue this election.

 

[The ADD]

Yeah for the sake of you Habesha brehs, I hope she's not the pick although I do agree with @The ADD that she's probably being overlooked on here at least. Saw her interview on Maddow yesterday, and she looked like she knew she was deep in the running.

Indeed and I’m not saying she’s the right pick but she’s probably more in contention than we’ve discussed here, love it or hate it.

 

[Outlaw]

This is the thing. Your view is very rooted in a personal belief that you don’t totally have experience in. You aren’t wrong but I think we have to look at this objectively relative to the bigger picture. The minute we start wholesale dismissing potential candidates because of who their non-public kids support then it’s not Higher Learning discussion IMO. Further I don’t we can use something that specific bad a true factor in a potential outcome.

True it’s not an intellectual discussion, it’s more of an emotional debate but that also plays a big role in politics

Harris and Warren have their households under control though