Joe Biden Planning To Lay Out New Steps To Stem The U.S. Crime Wave

[Professor Emeritus]

Jailhouse Joe

Here comes some legislation for yo Black asses!

all of yall who voted for Joe Biden who popped off the new Jim crow...

Smh.

This is the area he shines in.... redeveloping horrible and devastating solutions for black and brown people in the name of stopping crime.

Only legislation I'm aware of is a push to fully erase the crack / cocaine sentencing disparity. I'm sure you'll find some way to twist that tho.


Biden endorses bill to end sentencing disparity for crack and powder cocaine

 

[Professor Emeritus]

what about those white domestic terrorists that ran up in the capital on the 6th?!?

That's what i'm saying. Almost 6 months into the year and nothing.

531 people have been charged so far:

531 people have been charged in the Capitol insurrection so far. This searchable table shows them all.



Donald Trump was impeached by the House, but his conviction failed in the Senate by a 57-43 vote with all Democrats and 7 Republicans voting to convict:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/13/sen...-of-inciting-insurrection-at-us-capitol-.html



They tried to set up an independent commission to fully investigate what led to the riots, but Senate Republicans killed it:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...-jan-6-commission-by-negative-19-vote-margin/



So instead, the House is setting up a committee to probe the attack:

'A day of darkness': Pelosi announces House select committee to investigate Jan. 6 attack



Outside of those moves, what are you specifically wanting Biden and/or Congress to do?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Are you serious? Crime was up everywhere in 2020.

there’s no way to deny this

NPR Cookie Consent and Choices

To be clear, murders and some gun crime are up.

Violent crime in general is mostly stable.

Other crime is down.

 

[Corny Batman]

These pigs don't want any reform. They operate worse than the mafia when it comes to criticism against them.

They are essentially running a mafia-style protection racket nationwide.

 

[CrimsonTider]

You typed that word salad to say this

but ending qualified immunity isn’t going to
Stop a surge in crime and people want to feel safe first and foremost


And you can

How does ending qualified immunity address a rise in violent crime?

come on now

 

[Insensitive]

But everything surrounding the statements from psaki were about Gun Control and Gun violence?

Everything else is just conjecture from Moody people. What did I miss?

Your thing pretty often is to dismiss genuine worry as "Moody Conjecture", as if it isn't founded very real
abuses that objectively exist in reality.
We've already seen the results of the Neoliberal (Biden style) approach to stemming crime.

Here's a podcast link in case you need a history lesson:

Racist Psuedoscience.

This quote:

The worry over crime is real and believed to be fueled by the pandemic, which has created economic hardship, displacement and anxiety. But there are also tricky politics at play. The spike in crime has become a Republican talking point and has been a frequent topic of conversation on conservative media.

White House aides believe that Biden, with his long legislative record on crime as a former senator, is not easy to paint as soft on the issue, and the president has been clear that he is opposed to the “defund the police” movement, which has been effectively used against other Democrats to paint them as anti-law enforcement. But Biden also is trying to boost progressives’ efforts to reform policing. And while combating crime and reforming the police don’t have to be at odds with each other, the two efforts are increasingly billed that way.

Speaks to the point I'm making.

This is an old issue coming BACK to the fore in 2021.

The Republicans have repeatedly framed their sister party The Democrats as enablers of violence and supporters of lawlessness
and it's often done in a "Dog whistle" or openly racist way. Implying that they're in support of or in defense of violence perpetrated by minorities.

The Democrats typically respond with being "Tough On Crime" and "Pro Law & Order" with these statements turning into actual
legislature which has negatively impacted.....minority groups.

The problem here is Biden has been on a spree drafting up paperwork that also criminalizes Anti-Capitalist or Socialist rhetoric which
ties into the current "New Red Scare" we have going on in the states with Anti-Chinese Rhetoric tangentially being channeled into
Anti-Sino and overt Asian Racism (like the recent spats of racist attacks!).

This is without touching on the economic impact of the Pandemic and how it may be fuel for any potential crime to rear it's head
this summer (lost jobs, stagnant wages, current inflation (rising prices for food, gas, housing etc.) .

We can't have a realistic criticism of Biden and The Democrats and what it actually means to be progressive if any concerns
about their fascist tendencies and Republican-isms are handwaved as "Crazy fear mongering".

 

[CrimsonTider]

This conversation about "Crime" and how it's framed in the U.S. is so much deeper than just gun control breh.

Not when you speak on crime currently happening

it’s about guns and repeat offenders

 

[Insensitive]

Not when you speak on crime currently happening

it’s about guns and repeat offenders

It's an add on to the system.

Ain't no looking at it in isolation.

 

[CrimsonTider]

It's an add on to the system.

Ain't no looking at it in isolation.

But if you were challenged with addressing the crime going on now.

you have to do something about illegal guns

 

[Red Shield]

A lot Black ppl in these neighborhoods would like more of a police presence. They just don’t want racist police killing and harassing them for no other reason than being black..police are not the problem racist police are

 

[Pressure]

Your thing pretty often is to dismiss genuine worry as "Moody Conjecture", as if it isn't founded very real
abuses that objectively exist in reality.
We've already seen the results of the Neoliberal (Biden style) approach to stemming crime.

Here's a podcast link in case you need a history lesson:

Racist Psuedoscience.

This quote:


Speaks to the point I'm making.

This is an old issue coming BACK to the fore in 2021.

The Republicans have repeatedly framed their sister party The Democrats as enablers of violence and supporters of lawlessness
and it's often done in a "Dog whistle" or openly racist way. Implying that they're in support of or in defense of violence perpetrated by minorities.

The Democrats typically respond with being "Tough On Crime" and "Pro Law & Order" with these statements turning into actual
legislature which has negatively impacted.....minority groups.

The problem here is Biden has been on a spree drafting up paperwork that also criminalizes Anti-Capitalist or Socialist rhetoric which
ties into the current "New Red Scare" we have going on in the states with Anti-Chinese Rhetoric tangentially being channeled into
Anti-Sino and overt Asian Racism (like the recent spats of racist attacks!).

This is without touching on the economic impact of the Pandemic and how it may be fuel for any potential crime to rear it's head
this summer (lost jobs, stagnant wages, current inflation (rising prices for food, gas, housing etc.) .

We can't have a realistic criticism of Biden and The Democrats and what it actually means to be progressive if any concerns
about their fascist tendencies and Republican-isms are handwaved as "Crazy fear mongering".

I'm sorry, but you're dismissing the very real data showing increases in gun violence as merely a republican talking point.

Further, your argument operates on the assumption that Joe Biden is attempting to create crime bill 2.0 which is completely at odds with actions he's taken as recent as this week where he supports scheduling reform on powder vs crack cocaine.

Lastly, defund the police police isn't a platform he ran and won on. He's been clear he supports law enforcement while most people agree with police reform they aren't largely interested in defunding the police.

Aside:

Your thing pretty often is to dismiss genuine worry as "Moody Conjecture", as if it isn't founded very real
abuses that objectively exist in reality.
We've already seen the results of the Neoliberal (Biden style) approach to stemming crime.

Nothing about this has to do with neoliberalism. Stop it. We're not talking economic models here.

The problem here is Biden has been on a spree drafting up paperwork that also criminalizes Anti-Capitalist or Socialist rhetoric which
ties into the current "New Red Scare" we have going on in the states with Anti-Chinese Rhetoric tangentially being channeled into
Anti-Sino and overt Asian Racism (like the recent spats of racist attacks!).

nikka what? You've now drifted into a discussion with regard to socialism?

What the fukk are you even attempting to ramble about. Socialism doesn't protect you from state sponsored violence nor gun violence.

 

[Pressure]

Biden announces strategy to tackle gun violence amid sharp increase in crime

President Joe Biden on Wednesday laid out his plan for addressing the surge in gun violence that has impacted cities around the country in the wake of the coronavirus pandemic, saying he wants to "supercharge what works."

The president's strategy addressed five key areas: stemming the flow of firearms used to commit violence; providing law enforcement with more resources; investing in community violence interventions; expanding summer programs and employment opportunities, especially for young people; and helping formerly incarcerated people re-enter their communities.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/06/14/2021-gun-violence/


I'm interested in hearing how some of you guys look to address gun violence and the illegal trade of firearms without law enforcement.

 

[Insensitive]

I'm sorry, but you're dismissing the very real data showing increases in gun violence as merely a republican talking point.

Never dismissed gun violence.
So I'm not sure why you're saying this.
Like at all.

Further, your argument operates on the assumption that Joe Biden is attempting to create crime bill 2.0 which is completely at odds with actions he's taken as recent as this week where he supports scheduling reform on powder vs crack cocaine.

Never mentioned the crime bill.
However the approach to combating crime in this country
helped to create the crime bill but the crime bill doesn't exist in a bubble.

It and it's descendants are pretty blatantly influenced by other aspects of our society.

Lastly, defund the police police isn't a platform he ran and won on. He's been clear he supports law enforcement while most people agree with police reform they aren't largely interested in defunding the police.

I never said he ran on that platform, his opponents did, his response is what it's always been.
That's the point I've been making this entire time.

Nothing about this has to do with neoliberalism. Stop it. We're not talking economic models here.

Neo-liberalism isn't just an "Economic model", it's a view of how the entire country functions.
It's literally a world view.

nikka what? You've now drifted into a discussion with regard to socialism?

Breh says "Why are you talking about Socialism ?".
Insensitive uses quote from article talking about the failures of capitalism and why the economy (Capitalism....) likely will cause a spike in crime.
Breh plays stupid and says "Why are we talking about these things ? Don't you know crime just fukking happens seemingly out of nowhere
much like comic books ???"

What the fukk are you even attempting to ramble about. Socialism doesn't protect you from state sponsored violence nor gun violence.

The expected jack-assery.
I never said Socialism protects you from State violence.
What the actual fukk are YOU rambling about ?

Dudes really get on here, suck their own dikks and refuse to engage with anything contrary to their world view.
shyts impressive man.

 

[Pressure]

Never mentioned the crime bill.
However the approach to combating crime in this country
helped to create the crime bill but the crime bill doesn't exist in a bubble.

It and it's descendants are pretty blatantly influenced by other aspects of our society.

He outlined his approach to what he wants to do to combat gun violence.

Youte talking about everything except what this specific proposal is about.

I never said he ran on that platform, his opponents did, his response is what it's always been.
That's the point I've been making this entire time.

This is dishonest. His current platform is not in line with his tough on crime stances from the 90s.

Neo-liberalism isn't just an "Economic model", it's a view of how the entire country functions.
It's literally a world view.

Wrong

Neoliberalism as a class ideology; or, the political causes of the growth of inequalities - PubMed

Breh says "Why are you talking about Socialism ?".
Insensitive uses quote from article talking about the failures of capitalism and why the economy (Capitalism....) likely will cause a spike in crime.
Breh plays stupid and says "Why are we talking about these things ? Don't you know crime just fukking happens seemingly out of nowhere
much like comic books ???"

Gun violence deaths spiked during covid when lower income workers were seeing an increase earning with stimulus checks and enhanced unemployment.

So while economic factors have shown to show an increase in crime the increase in gun violence in this country is seemingly due to other factors that need to be addressed. Which is what we're seeing in this proposal.

America will always be a pro-capitalism country. Work within reality.

The expected jack-assery.
I never said Socialism protects you from State violence.
What the actual fukk are YOU rambling about ?

Dudes really get on here, suck their own dikks and refuse to engage with anything contrary to their world view.
shyts impressive man.

I'm a jackass. So are you. But you aren't even talking about the specifics of the proposal. Just talking for your soap box.

 

[Insensitive]

He outlined his approach to what he wants to do to combat gun violence.

Youte talking about everything except what this specific proposal is about.

I'm talking about what @Corny Batman is talking about which is the meta-narrative of how these
policies are an extension of what existed before and is not actual progress in any meaningful manner.
Hence the "More cops, No health care though".

As in our budgetary concerns only rear their head when in service to the general public.
However when it comes to arming Israel or granting police forces more power or monetary backing
they never seem to have an issue.

This is all related to Biden's presidency and his choices thus far, so I don't think it's really off topic.

This is dishonest. His current platform is not in line with his tough on crime stances from the 90s.

It is not dishonest.

Wrong

Neoliberalism as a class ideology; or, the political causes of the growth of inequalities - PubMed

From your own link:

This ideology postulates that the reduction of state interventions in economic and social activities and the deregulation of labor and financial markets, as well as of commerce and investments,
have liberated the enormous potential of capitalism to create an unprecedented era of social well-being in the world's population.

The author also describes how the application of these neoliberal policies has been responsible for a substantial growth of social inequalities within the countries where such policies have been applied, as well as among countries.

Neo-liberalism is NOT just an economic theory, it's an idea about how our ENTIRE SOCIETY should be governed.
This is why I mentioned CAPITALISM because that is it's CENTERPIECE.

Gun violence deaths spiked during covid when lower income workers were seeing an increase earning with stimulus checks and enhanced unemployment.

So while economic factors have shown to show an increase in crime the increase in gun violence in this country is seemingly due to other factors that need to be addressed. Which is what we're seeing in this proposal.

The problem here is, we already have an abnormal amount of gun violence in this country.
This (to me) doesn't seem to be a real step towards anything and appears to be another calculated political move by
Biden. I could be wrong and I'll openly admit that but so far Biden has disappointed.

America will always be a pro-capitalism country. Work within reality.

Says the guy who cannot critique the failures of capitalism or neo-liberalism for fear of looking "wrong" on the internet.

I'm a jackass. So are you. But you aren't even talking about the specifics of the proposal. Just talking for your soap box.

I guess we're both jack asses then since we both have no qualms in saying that we think our perspective Soap box is better.