Jinder, Alexa, and Braun out here killing "wwe cant make new stars" mythyos

[Buggsy Mogues]

Do the people care about him?
Does he get heat?
Is he more interesting than the current feud the champion is in?

You are stuck on this thing where any crowd reaction = people "caring" or being "engaged".

Again, if people care, THEY'LL SPEND MONEY. There's a mile long list of wrestlers throughout history who always got good crowd reactions but people never invested in them enough to buy tickets or buy PPV's.

That's how you separate STARS from just good hands. Here's one you might appreciate. Jeff Jarrett always got good crowd heat in WCW. Always booked in top programs.

I'll slap you right now if you tell me he was ever a STAR.

 

[Buggsy Mogues]

Braun Strowman is absolutely more over than Roman reigns. There is no way reigns would get a big show main event over like Strowman.

For real Ed?

Roman Reigns is THE REASON Strowman is over. Before he got tied up with Roman, he was beating up jobbers to crickets. Roman gave him the rub and got him over, but he still ain't anywhere near as over as Roman.

I'm not a Reigns mark at all but let's be real. Dude is the closest thing to a star they have.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

For real Ed?

Roman Reigns is THE REASON Strowman is over. Before he got tied up with Roman, he was beating up jobbers to crickets. Roman gave him the rub and got him over, but he still ain't anywhere near as over as Roman.

I'm not a Reigns mark at all but let's be real. Dude is the closest thing to a star they have.

Is that why people marked out to a big show match in 2017?
Is that why his feud with Brock will be Hotter than reigns' and bigger than Strowman feud with reigns?
Is that why people are like "give him the title now"


You're wrong.

 

[Beautiful Bobby Eatin]

braun strowman
Alexa bliss
Jinder mahal (his new stardom)

All new showcased, home grown, and over as hell, this year

Why isnt this being applauded?

Until Wrestlemania comes up and they push the old timers again. They do this literally every year. They always had the ability to but they have to maintain it and trust their stars to get over. That is the criticism.

 

[Dreamzeedream]

Jinder just lead SD to the lowest ratings of 2017. Gotta relax a bit on that.

But to be fair. Jinder Had Been a Jobber his whole wwe Career. Its kinda unfair(at this point) to expect him to be draw this soon

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

someone explain how Alexa is being labled overrated

Then explain how Jinder isnt considered overrated yet, at least around TSC.

He cut a decent promo (same one that Muhammad Hassan cut btw), attacked Orton...and............

 

[Buggsy Mogues]

Is that why people marked out to a big show match in 2017?
Is that why his feud with Brock will be Hotter than reigns' and bigger than Strowman feud with reigns?
Is that why people are like "give him the title now"


You're wrong.

Objection your honor... prosecution is trying to use a crystal ball to predict the future and present it as something factual.

IF anyone is clamoring for Strowman like that, it's BECAUSE OF ROMAN REIGNS. You realize that, right? And any popularity he has, certainly hasn't SURPASSED Roman Reigns.

Did you hear the crowd last night during the match? LET'S GO ROMAN/ROMAN SUCKS.

That's because out of the two, he's the one who's the real star. He's the one people care about. He's the one people are invested in, positively or negatively.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

Objection your honor... prosecution is trying to use a crystal ball to predict the future and present it as something factual.

IF anyone is clamoring for Strowman like that, it's BECAUSE OF ROMAN REIGNS. You realize that, right? And any popularity he has, certainly hasn't SURPASSED Roman Reigns.

Did you hear the crowd last night during the match? LET'S GO ROMAN/ROMAN SUCKS.

That's because out of the two, he's the one who's the real star. He's the one people care about. He's the one people are invested in, positively or negatively.

Overruled; the defense set a precedent in using future expectations in justifying current case when stating that Jinder is simply food for Orton until Rusev returns.

 

[8WON6]

- Again, Braun was getting pops long before Reigns came along. He was even getting pops vs Sami Zayn. Crowds love seeing complete destruction, and Braun has been providing that long before this the Reigns feud.

- Agree about them putting the belt on her too fast, but what exactly what Bayley doing with it? Alexa's mic skills far exceed every other woman on the roster outside of Mickie and Sasha (as a heel), so that's why Alexa gets the reactions she gets. Sure, she ain't shyt in the ring, but Bayley, Naomi, and Becky all walked her through some fairly solid matches. She's a very nice heel and does everything to try to be a heel and not a "cool heel". Not sure what makes her overrated, as not a single person as acted like she's '96 Dean Malenko in the ring.

She's overrated(at least on this site) for her promos and talking. Maybe if just for appearance. But to me she's just as basic a heel as Sasha is a basic face. And yes Bayley wasn't doing anything with it which is why I suggested Nia go on a monster run with it. Alexa should have feuded with Sasha first and not just walk into the title.

 

[Drones]

Jinder Mahal got a main event push with 0 build, he has some fans excited but as of right now he's a big ass meme. Nowhere close to being a 'star' yet, lmao.

 

[Dreamzeedream]

this idiot then doesn't know what a star is, this shyt is all FAKE, if you're not a draw and putting more money in the company's pocket, it doesn't mean shyt

A star is a Draw breh and draw is a star

 

[Buggsy Mogues]

Overruled; the defense set a precedent in using future expectations in justifying current case when stating that Jinder is simply food for Orton until Rusev returns.

Because you're comparing dudes in the middle of their push to guys AFTER their push cooled off, ignoring the fact that those endings are exactly why people say WWE can't create stars You're trying to call the winner of the race before it ends. That's like saying Golden State is already the champs when they go up 3-1.






You ignored what I said about all the chants for Roman last night? Did you not hear them? Or...?

But he's not as over as Strowman?

 

[Dreamzeedream]

No, if the crowd cares, then he is a star. I can list a lot of people given opportunities as main eventers who were rejected and did NOT become stars

• Jack swagger
• Ryback
• Ezekiel Jackson
• Alberto del Rio after his initial run
• Almost all of the ruthless agression meatheads like Luther reigns, heidenrich, pulombo, etc

A DRAW and a STAR are different in this conversation

Big Zeke was never "given opportunities as main eventers who were rejected and did NOT become stars"

 

[TheGreatShowtime]

They put the title on Alexa for the following reasons:

1) She's more comfortable and natural acting as a champion than Bayley
2) This allows Bayley & Sasha to feud without having Sasha becoming a 16x RAW women's champion over the course of their feud
3) It allows someone else to step up and feud for the RAW women's championship rather than Bayley & Sasha (Mickie, Emma, Nia, Dana, Alicia Fuuuuuuux)

Also, the jury is still out Jinder. I'm a fan, but for all we know, dude might be tag-teaming with James Ellsworth by the end of the year. I don't trust their booking.

For how good these three have been, there have been 10 or 20 guys who are terrible. So, let's not overrate WWE developmental

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

Because you're comparing dudes in the middle of their push to guys AFTER their push cooled off, ignoring the fact that those endings are exactly why people say WWE can't create stars You're trying to call the winner of the race before it ends. That's like saying Golden State is already the champs when they go up 3-1.






You ignored what I said about all the chants for Roman last night? Did you not hear them? Or...?

But he's not as over as Strowman?

You keep ignoring my BULLETPROOF big show argument. And THANK YOU STROWMAN shows the people chose Braun over reigns. AND he was getting cheers before that.

Tap out breh