Jinder, Alexa, and Braun out here killing "wwe cant make new stars" mythyos
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and you're corny with it
Playaz Eyez
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As a mark who's never been backstage or even knows anyone backstage, how do you know this?
The levels of stupidity in this thread is a new low for TSC
Probably the most ironic post in history coming from you.
I'm talking card position / how prominently they are featured, and in those terms they are definitely only a little below Seth Dean and RomanEven then how is Braun not just a hair beneath those 3? Stop being an argumentative dumbass
Card position is a pre-determined decision that is irrelevant to whether or not someone is a STAR which is what we're discussing here. Jinder Mahal is in a main event program, but he's viewed as a joke by most and still getting jobbed out on the house show loop and ya'll have the audacity to call this dude a star, or act like he's only "a little" below ROMAN fukkING REIGNS.
I just can't
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To be clear, Braun did not need Roman to become a star, he was on his way. they built him up correctly, very slow and methodical. He went from beating up jobbers to smaller feuds. Now he's here in the main event scene. He was starting to get over with the jobbers last year.
Feuding with Roman obviously helps but this guy has been a blue chip prospect since he stepped foot in the Wyatt Family.
Feuding with Roman obviously helps but this guy has been a blue chip prospect since he stepped foot in the Wyatt Family.
Dead @ you thinking creating stars isn't a "pre-determined", handpicked, pre-meditated, deliberate procedure. 80% of making main eventers is what WWE does with their booking and what the company wants, 10% is identifying your guy and the other 10% is gauging audience reaction. You keep booking Braun, Jinder, and Alexa in these positions, and its only a matter of time before the audience is just as attached to and familiar with them as a Roman or Seth. That's why I intentionally separated guys like Roman Seth and Dean from guys like Randy and Cena who benefitted from favorable booking but also have been prominently featured on TV for over a decade and are deeply ingrained with the audience. Starmaking, like anything in wrestling, is a work and not a shoot.
You really are dumb
Try to keep up here. Just being booked in the top spot alone isn't enough to make you a star. COUNTLESS wrestlers over the years have been pushed and then cooled off because people didn't care. The push is only half the battle. Getting star reactions, selling tickets, selling merch, making people pay to see you.. THAT'S what makes you a star.
Alright. Now we are on common ground.You really are dumb
Try to keep up here. Just being booked in the top spot alone isn't enough to make you a star. COUNTLESS wrestlers over the years have been pushed and then cooled off because people didn't care. The push is only half the battle. Getting star reactions, selling tickets, selling merch, making people pay to see you.. THAT'S what makes you a star.
Can you agree that based on the above list, Braun stroman does all of the bolded (save for merch since he got his first shirt just now), that Alexa gets star reactions and sells merch and Drew eyes to talking smack and SmackDown, and that it appears jinder has the potential to capitalize on this star making effort and do all of the above?
It doesn't need to be about the title. The focus of the feud was about how Bayley can't win without Sasha's help.
It's easy to go about it with Sasha helping Bayley keep the title to eventually get her own shot to win the title, but Bayley blew it by losing the title on her own without Sasha.
Playaz Eyez
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Ditto. Sometimes, I feel like people forget that feuds aren't always centered around titles, and don't need to be either. You don't have to go back many years to see that either.
prophecypro
Hollywood North
People are already saying that Jinder is a good worker when all of his matches have been under 10 minutes.someone explain how Alexa is being labled overrated
Then explain how Jinder isnt considered overrated yet, at least around TSC.
He cut a decent promo (same one that Muhammad Hassan cut btw), attacked Orton...and............
My definition of a STAR is vastly different though. I don't just throw the term on anyone who has some semblance of overness with the crowd. To me you a draw/star is one in the same. You have to be a proven difference maker and needle mover to be considered a star. Cena right now is the only one who does that in terms of people who are full-time or close to full-time. When you put him on or take him off a show, the ratings and/or attendance changes. That's a star. Everyone else is pretty much interchangeable although some are more over than others.
As for your list:
STROWMAN: There is no evidence YET of him being a draw or moving any sort of numbers. He does get big reactions now that he's working with the most over guy in the company, but it remains to be seen how they capitalize on that. I'm a fan of him and I think he's got the perfect look and ability, and they've done most everything right so far, but my guess is it ends with him putting over both Brock and Reigns, and the end result is that he'll still be over, but he won't be that big of a deal anymore, which basically goes back to the argument that WWE can't create new stars. If 6 months from now that doesn't happen, tag me and we'll revisit this.
BLISS: I barely care enough about women's wrestling to notice tbh but I have commented on TSC that I think she is head and shoulders above the rest of the women as a performer except for Charlotte. Now does that make her a STAR? She gets nice reactions for the most part, polite golf claps and shyt, but is the roof blowing off the place for her? Is anyone really going out of their way to see her? Trish and Lita got star reactions. Bliss is one of the better swimmers in a very shallow swimming pool, but I've seen nothing that screams STAR to me.
JINDER: Hell. fukking. no. He's Vladimir Kozlov/Lord Tensai status. With his absolute CEILING, if all the stars align perfectly, being King Mabel. The Backlash match will be shyt on heavy and in a few months we'll all look back about this run like
Playaz Eyez
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^We'll have to wait after Backlash to see if he's them or not. Kozlov has the cleanest win in history overr Undertaker (after a simple powerslam 
) and was teaming with Santino and planking on top of JTG on NXT a year later. Lord Tensai had back to back wins over CM Punk and John Cena, and was dancing in lingerie and being renamed Sweet T 3 months after that.
) and was teaming with Santino and planking on top of JTG on NXT a year later. Lord Tensai had back to back wins over CM Punk and John Cena, and was dancing in lingerie and being renamed Sweet T 3 months after that.
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