Jesse Willams just spit that pro black fire on the BET Awards

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Science huh :patrice:

Ok, so he has a black wife. Are their kids black? Or are they "mulattos" too like their father?

If they're not black, what are all of us (or at least many of us)? I mean isn't it commonly accepted that white men raped black women during slavery. If that's the case, did any kid who was the byproduct of that rape lose their blackness because a white man was their biological father?

I'm just trying to understand, you know, from a scientific perspective. What is an "actual real black person?" :ld: What is this quantifiable measurement that determines race which is apparently accepted by the scientific-minded community?
:francis: A full black person in America is someone who has no living cac relatives, both parents and both sets of grandparents have to be black for the kid to be black.
 

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But all we do IS TALK.
The Blacks elites that attending the bet awards? Sure. The hardworking Black men and women that at least try to better themselves and the community? Nope. When you say shyt like this it undermines the work that actual activists have done and continue to do.
Go jigabo jive over this koombaya bullshyt and stop quoting me.
Do you think you sound like Malcolm X? You're not a militant, you're a fake militant, and one of many that post on the coli and specifically TLR
 

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Two black parents but yet people say he's a half breed, mixed, not black, etc:

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You're classification for black (both parents being black) is flawed if you can't even identify who's who on sight. You want every black person to check in and prove their lineage to you?:mjlol:

You're playing into the white man's hands by creating all these arbitrary classifications on top of the ones they already established. Here we have a man who identifies as black and is fighting white supremacy (not on a message board but in real life) but we'll ignore his work/message because of his mother. Tell me who that benefits?:mjpls:

If it was up to you guys he wouldn't have been allowed to make that speech or fight on our behalf. Again, tell me who that benefits?:mjpls:

You want him fighting for mulatto power instead of black power? Yet again, tell me who that benefits?:mjpls:

Only one side wins if you had your way:mjpls:
- My classification for who is black is that he/she have two biological black parents. Thats it.
- I'm not creating any arbitrary classifications. These classifications are very much real and are enforced on a regular basis in terms of: law, employment and perception.
- No one is ignoring his message. I would argue that the attention he is receiving for his speech is a result of his white privilege.
- What would benefit black people is exclusivity. The fact that we're even arguing over this says a lot about this "community." There should be NO question as to who is, and who is not black. I feel that black people are too accepting of: people, circumstances and attitudes that leave us open and vulnerable.
 

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- My classification for who is black is that he/she have two biological black parents. Thats it.

Can you define "biological black?":jbhmm:


Since you mentioned science what percentage of a person's DNA needs to be black for an individual to qualify? 55%, 75%, 80%, 100?
 

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The Blacks elites that attending the bet awards? Sure. The hardworking Black men and women that at least try to better themselves and the community? Nope. When you say shyt like this it undermines the work that actual activists have done and continue to do.

Do you think you sound like Malcolm X? You're not a militant, you're a fake militant, and one of many that post on the coli and specifically TLR
I'm not even a militant. :mjlol:
 

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:francis: A full black person in America is someone who has no living cac relatives, both parents and both sets of grandparents have to be black for the kid to be black.
So, scientifically-speaking, you are able to re-gain blackness so long as any white genes in your lineage are removed by a couple of generations? :ld:

So taking Jesse Williams and his family for example...

Because Jesse is mixed, his kids can't be black even though they have a black mother. Thus, their kids are mixed.

And even if their kids procreate with "full black people," their kids cannot be black because Jesse is mixed. So, Jesse and his wife's grandchildren are mixed.

If Jesse's grandchildren, however, procreate with other "full black people", they finally will reach the scientific measurement for blackness because that'll mean there was no white blood for a couple generations and that scientifically makes them black. UNLESS all "cac relatives" have NOT YET died off. If Jesse's mother is still alive, these kids will still be considered "mixed" or "other" but most certainly not "black." But once all cacs have died, we can have a pure black race, again.

That about right? :ld: What journal is this scientific analysis published in? I would like to learn more.
 
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So, scientifically-speaking, you are able to re-gain blackness so long as any white genes in your lineage are removed by a couple of generations? :ld:

So taking Jesse Williams and his family for example...

Because Jesse is mixed, his kids can't be black even though they have a black mother. This, their kids are mixed.

And even if their kids procreate with "full black people," their kids cannot be black because Jesse is mixed. So, Jesse and his wife's grandchildren are mixed.

If Jesse's grandchildren, however, procreate with other "full black people", they finally will reach the scientific measurement for blackness because that'll mean there was no white blood for a couple generations and that scientifically makes them black. UNLESS all "cac relatives" have died off. If Jesse's mother is still alive, however, these kids will still be considered "mixed" or "other" but most certainly not "black." But once all cacs have died, we can have a pure black race, again.

That about right? :ld: What journal is this scientific analysis published in? I would like to learn more.
Shut up mutt, I ain't got time for your bytch ass.
 

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Shut up mutt, I ain't got time for your bytch ass.
:pachaha: but I meet your scientific definition for blackness :umad:

Seriously, if you can't articulate the "science" how do you expect others to believe this? If you're scientific arguments can't even stand up to the simplest scrutiny, how does what you're saying have any weight?
 
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I don't got cable nor plan on watching on BET since hey focus too much on the E in BET instead of the B. Much rather them put abunch of black activists like Tariq and ETC on hour segments.


But this Jesse Williams speech is a gem and the fact he did in front of a bunch rich black people who are withdraw from society is what makes it better :salute:
 

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:snoop::snoop::snoop: at this fukken thread.

Put that fukken troll, (you know the one) on ignore and keep it moving. In fact put anyone who is arguing ol'boy isn't black needs to be put on the ignored list.

I can't believe this shyt.

Cacs always come in here to discredit the source, I wonder why that is. :mjpls:
How is calling a biracial biracial discrediting them or the work that they have done. Its simply commenting on their race.

Dolezal was president of the NAACP but she was still a white woman in a spray tan.
 
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