Is that where Jay came up with that bullshyt about him not writing pretty quincindental especially the way Jay was looking at him when he did the bounce.
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Is that where Jay came up with that bullshyt about him not writing pretty quincindental especially the way Jay was looking at him when he did the bounce.
TheDarceKnight
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As far as I know, Jay has never written his bars down. He and Biggie were recording Brooklyn's Finest together and both sort of waiting around for the other person to write their verse, and then they realized the other also didn't write with a pen and pad. They were the first two big rappers I remember that didn't write down their bars. Styles P, Common, and Phonte from Little Brother were others that often wrote in their head but didn't really brag about it or talk about it much. Conway is a current rapper that writes in his head instead of using a pen.
I'm sure there are others that do it, but those are some of the main ones that come to mind.
OfTheCross
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Doesn't look good tbh
KillerB88
Superstar
That’s doesn’t meant that at all. His girl Alexis cheated on HIM. Listen to 808s. He’s literally talking about her being seen with some other nikka. And I don’t think he did Coodie dirty. Coodies skills weren’t there yet to do a big budget video. Do any of us really remember the Jesus Walks video? I don’t. But I do remember Gold Digger 
KillerB88
Superstar
That may be why he gives album credits to anyone who does anything in the studio when he’s making his own stuff lol
I haven’t seen not one notebook of rhymes in this entire doc. It’s clear Rhymefest and Consequence wrote damn near all of College Dropout now
Exactly. I was thinking about the doc. And its obvious coodie probably cut out the stuff that involved people writting his shyt.
Mike the Executioner
What went on up there? Poppers and weird sex!
I got sad watching those video essays @TheDarceKnight posted. I've seen three (Late Registration, Graduation, 808s) and I'm in the middle of the MBDTF one. Kanye definitely feels like he lost a part of himself after his mom died and his engagement was off. In interviews for previous albums, he sounded excited, ready to take on the world and accomplish everything he had set out to do. Then in later interviews, he sounds more depressed, more withdrawn. Almost like his confidence was shaken a little.
That interview with Jay Leno was legitimately uncomfortable. Up to that point, Kanye had never been at a loss for words.
Mike the Executioner
What went on up there? Poppers and weird sex!
I thought Kanye always had ghostwriters, but this documentary makes it seem like he was more involved in the writing in the beginning like you said. Songs like "Two Words," "Spaceship," and "Last Call" sound personal so he probably didn't get any help there. Graduation was Big Sean-influenced, apparently ("I Wonder"). And 808s had Kid Cudi and Mr. Hudson.
He can still write on his own, but I guess it's easier at this point to get help. He wrote "No More Parties in L.A." by himself, and it sounds like he recorded it in one take.
Jay not writing down his verses was a thing before Kanye was a thing, every producer who’s worked with Jay has said this
And as for Kanye getting help with his rhymes, it’s always been known that Kanye had verses written for him. He’s been open about the help con and fest gave him. It’s not a mysterious thing like drakes situation. We see con in the background but this doc is leaving all of that out though.
And as for Kanye getting help with his rhymes, it’s always been known that Kanye had verses written for him. He’s been open about the help con and fest gave him. It’s not a mysterious thing like drakes situation. We see con in the background but this doc is leaving all of that out though.
I’m talking about the chic that was with Ye at the news years party at his new crib.. The chic in all white
KillerB88
Superstar
That’s the same girl. “Couldn’t afford a car so she named her daughter Alexis”
Scientific
Bacdafucup
Lupe isn't mentioned either. I don't think he had much help for College Dropout. It took him so long to make the album, he had so much in his head about what he wanted to write. He's freestyling all the time in the beginning. Once he's respected as a rapper, I think he achieved what he wanted out of it. After that, he wasn't trying to become the greatest lyricst either.
