Albums Jay Electronica - A Written Testimony (Discussion Thread)

The Ruler 09

Superstar
Supporter
Joined
Jul 14, 2012
Messages
37,960
Reputation
1,687
Daps
38,033
Reppin
NULL
WHOLE ALBUM IS FULL OF
SPIRITUAL, RELIGIOUS, MOVIE/TV REFERENCES.

WHEN YOU CONSIDER
HE ONLY DROPPED 10 VERSES
ITS VERY LAZY WRITING.

LIKE DUDE YOU CANT GIVE US
ORIGINAL THOUGHTS/GEMS WITH THE LIMITED
BARS YOU PROVIDED?
:devil:
:evil:


It's called A Written Testimony, considering he is very spiritual and a strong believer in N.O.I of course it's gonna have those references. His spiritual, religious and sometimes obscure references are 1 of the things I enjoy about him as an artist and about the album. Maybe other's may not like it but it's 1 of the things I enjoy a lot about it and attracts me to listen, and as I said they are within the context and theme and related to his own journey and story, they aren't random or pseudo intellectual, infact to me they seem very organic.

The lazy writing thing I strongly disagree with, cause it's not, that implies it's like namedropping or thrown together randomly, which is what lazy would be. But it's not at all, they are contextualized and within the theme of his verses and the album for the most part.

And as I mentioned the bars just in that prior section were original...

For example..

Some ask me "Jay, man, why come for so many years you been exempt?"
'Cause familiarity don't breed gratitude, just contempt

And the price of sanity is too damn high, just like the rent

Sometimes I was held down by the gravity of my pen (Pen)
Sometimes I was held down by the gravity of my sin (Sin)

It's all building and adding on to the depth and picture.

Criticizing somebody for using a simile or making a reference in Hip Hop is wild to me, by that criteria we'd have to discount nearly everybody, including Illmatic...

I'm like Scarface sniffin' cocaine
Holdin' an M16, see, with the pen I'm extreme


But there's nothing wrong with making a reference, it's whether it fits in or not or if it's a crutch or if it's well done around that.

In that section it fits absolutely perfectly in terms of the content and mood, in this verse he doesn't make any references of those kind because it wasn't needed and was personal, that shows he's doing it based off the theme and mood of the song, not just using it as a crutch everywhere...

[Verse: Jay Electronica]
Eyes fiery, cry tears to my diary
Sometimes a Xanny bar can't help you fight back the anxiety
I go to my Lord quietly, teardrops on our faces
Teardrops on my face, it's like teardrops become waterfalls by the time they reach my laces
My eyelids is like levees but my tear ducts is like glaciers
As I contemplate creation, the salt that heals my wounds pour out my eyes just like libations
I can't stop my mind from racing, I got numbers on my phone
Pictures on my phone
The day my mama died, I scrolled her texts all day long
The physical returns but the connection still stay strong
Now I understand why you used to cry sometimes we ride down Claybourne
You just missed your— You just missed your mama
Now I just miss my mamas
The clothes we wear to bed at night to sleep is just pajamas
The flesh we roam this earth in is a blessing, not a promise
I bow with those who bow to the creator and pay homage
 
Last edited:

Piff Perkins

Veteran
Joined
May 29, 2012
Messages
51,776
Reputation
18,837
Daps
282,033
That DEHH review is surprising but at the same time, they're real rap heads who like most of the shyt I like and were waiting for this album as long as I was. I get being disappointed. On some level I am, in the sense that I did not expect this album to have so few Jay Elec bars (because it was a duo album basically). But just like the Budden thing...it almost sounds like people's recollection of Jay Electronica is vastly different from mine.

Jay Elect's production was always a mixture of weird, minimalist, and simple. Like I said earlier it was more DOOM than some elaborate "chop samples to oblivion, filter and add reverb" style. Many of his self-produced tracks were incredibly reserved lyrically, very introspective. Lyrically most of his shyt was always religious and introspective...tho clearly it's more religious on this album. I just don't understand anyone saying he didn't have bars on here. He has bars. Just because Hov had better performances doesn't mean Jay Elect was weak or something.
 

TEH

Veteran
Joined
Jul 24, 2015
Messages
46,561
Reputation
12,649
Daps
189,907
Reppin
....
after listening to this shyt more and more...i feel most of us are hyping this album off the fact that he finally has an official album..
i understand the disappointment after going back to listen to shyt like this









this nikka couldve been so much more

And another one misses the subtly and the message
 

The Ruler 09

Superstar
Supporter
Joined
Jul 14, 2012
Messages
37,960
Reputation
1,687
Daps
38,033
Reppin
NULL
I think another reason some may be at crossed wires is this type of album is has a theme, A Written Testiment. It wasn't as aggressive or in your face as some of his previous work, but that wasn't the intention.

This for example..



Jay Electroica bodied this shyt, lyrics are exceptional and so is the rapping, he destroys it, this type of material isn't on the album but with the spiritual and reflective nature of the album it probably wouldn't have fit. There's time for him to do that later, this was more on some reflective Better In Tune With The Infinite shyt overall.

I got another call from another great rapper earlier and he told me it's the best new Hip Hop album he's heard for a while. Maybe the people with some spirituality feel the album more cause it touches them on that level. If looking for just aggression and lyrical hard shyt isn't really the album for it, even though some of Jay-Z's verses are along those lines, Jay Electronica's are more spiritual and reflective.
 
Last edited:

The Ruler 09

Superstar
Supporter
Joined
Jul 14, 2012
Messages
37,960
Reputation
1,687
Daps
38,033
Reppin
NULL
Jay Electronica’s Deceptively Dynamic Debut.

Having one of the most mysterious personas in Hip-Hop Jay Electronica remains on brand with his debut. Announced out the blue only 40 days prior and released during what some propose are the end times the enigmatic MC shocks, pleases and perplexes with his first official LP. Jay Electronica garnered massive hype among Hip-Hop purists in 2007. The allure continued to grow with is sporadic releases and growing Hip-Hop connections, befriending heavy weights like Just Blaze, Erykah Badu, Nas & P. Diddy over the years. The hype reached a fever pitch in 2009 when super producer Just Blaze leaked 2 tracks they had worked on, and perhaps never intended to release, Exhibit A and Exhibit C. Both tracks took wings and spread throughout Hip-Hop sending a shock-wave through the culture unlike anything seen before. Jay Electronica’s reclusive and mysterious persona only added to the bubbling attention. When such attention is garnered fan’s naturally want more from the artist, Jay Electronica gave less, a lot less. The standard industry rules did not seem to apply to him, the rookie hype and attention was simply left to exist, Jay did not seem inclined to capitalize on it at all. The hype continued to grow for his debut, since Exhibit C a decade passed with only a few sporadic releases and many release dates announced and pushed back and then subsequently cancelled.

With immense hype it is almost impossible to live up to expectation, expectation that is not based on anything tangible but a collection of many individual fan’s imaginations visualizing a successful version of a vague abstraction. Fan’s want something perfect and envision a perfect product but this vision is based on nothing that already exists and simply only resides in their minds. Very few options remained on releasing an album that could live up to impossible standards, on ‘The Blinding’ Jay Electronica references releasing a project ‘just so y’all can pick me apart’. Another obstacle was the overlooked fact that Jay Electronica, though on a major label with major connections, is not a mainstream artist, when creating from his core he is more a writer of incredible vision, an astute analyst and pundit, not a commercial artist set for crossover success. His previous releases were very unconventional and abstract, many neglecting standard song structure, choruses or even time length. This was sure to factor in while releasing a debut album for listeners who only know of Jay because of the hype and not the music itself. They surely would be caught off guard by an LP of world music loops, no drums, obscure film snippets, religious lectures and no choruses. Like a magician pulling off an advanced ruse the much needed sleight of hand comes in the form of Jay-Z. Jay-Z is featured on 8 out of the 10 tracks and his purpose serves many functions, his universal appeal makes an otherwise abstract album acceptable to the masses on one hand and on the other he serves as a distraction for all the potential hate due to the insurmountable hype. The criticisms that have popped up are not with the lyrics, beats, track listing, or anything else, they are with the fact that Jay Electronica’s long awaited debut album is a group project with Jay-Z, one of Hip-Hop’s most celebrated artist ever. In the Tribe Called Quest documentary ‘Beats, Rhymes, And Life’ Chris Lighty described the function of Phife Dawg in relation to Q-tip was to reach the streets if Tip was “on the moon”. On Watch The Throne Kanye plays a similar role over-emphasizing his simplistic and immature side as well as his humor for mass appeal while Hov is more philosophical, introspective and self-aware.

On A Written Testimony Jay-Z takes his turn playing the role of the social anchor. Jay Electronica in turn takes his esoteric style further into space, literally referencing aliens and other of the more fantastical elements of religious texts and NOI lore. Jay Electronica’s fingerprint is over the album a lot more than listeners consciously notice, his role as producer is overlooked, the overall feel and content is just as much Jay Electronica as are his verses. Producing 6 of the 10 tracks the criticism of not being on his own debut album enough is less accurate, from the overall tone, Jay-Z’s subject matter, samples, audio snippets, loops and release Jay Electronica is felt on his debut album more than most major label artists are. Jay Electronica’s presence on his album mirrors his persona in Hip-Hop, he is felt more than seen. Most major label debuts have every popular artist featured on every big song and high profile producers producing songs for the sole purpose of making a commercially successful product. Contrary to that Jay Electronica does not cater to any sound or formula. Jay Electronica self-produced a signature ‘Jay Electronica album’ and simply had one guest artist come on board for the purpose of making his unorthodox art easily digestible. When looking back at the work Jay Electronica did release in the years since Exhibit C it’s rare to find a track with more than one verse, or even a chorus. His debut is as true to self as all his previous work, the only addition is having Jay-Z feature to push the songs to ‘standard’ length and to be an anchor for listeners who are lost listening to music that is far from conventional.

Musically A Written Testimony has the fantastical feel of a classic Disney score, Jay flawlessly mixes dusty loops of world music with abstract sounds and percussive minimalism. ‘The Ghost Of Soulja Slim’ kicks off the album, starting with a genius verse by Hov, fans still have to wait to hear Jay Electronica. By the time Jay Electronica comes in the song is half over and his verse is littered with double entendres referencing his label, the NOI, Tidal and Black Panther. A majority of the outside production is featured on the next track ‘The Blinding’ (produced by Swizz Beats, Hit-Boy, AraabMuzik and G. Ry) which features a very conservative use of Travis Scott in a two part track. The first half ends way too early leaving fans wondering why they did not extend the beat and have Hov and Jay trade rhymes longer. The second half gets introspective where the listener gets a glimpse into Jay Electronica’s thought process and fears. Alchemist and No I.D. also give production to the album but it’s so closely in the style of Jay Electronica that they just chop up loops and leave them untouched as finished instrumentals. ‘Ezekiel’s Wheel’ finds Jay delivering his most fiery rhymes over obscure clicks and clanks for percussion. Hov at this point in the album takes a backseat and only does the hooks if he even is on a track towards this last leg of the LP. The final track ‘A.P.I.D.T.A.’ concludes the album and strikes an emotional chord, with production by Khruangbin the overall feel is emotive, dreamy, and melancholy. Jay Electronica’s verses are delivered like poetry, a page in his diary detailing the loss of life and the impermanence of our physical form. A perfect final track for an album that perfectly deals with immense attention, giving a product that both answers and retains the mystery.

Rating: 10/10

-By Dan Stuckie

 

Peter Parker

Superstar
Joined
Jan 20, 2013
Messages
8,392
Reputation
1,155
Daps
29,705
That DEHH review is surprising but at the same time, they're real rap heads who like most of the shyt I like and were waiting for this album as long as I was. I get being disappointed. On some level I am, in the sense that I did not expect this album to have so few Jay Elec bars (because it was a duo album basically). But just like the Budden thing...it almost sounds like people's recollection of Jay Electronica is vastly different from mine.

Jay Elect's production was always a mixture of weird, minimalist, and simple. Like I said earlier it was more DOOM than some elaborate "chop samples to oblivion, filter and add reverb" style. Many of his self-produced tracks were incredibly reserved lyrically, very introspective. Lyrically most of his shyt was always religious and introspective...tho clearly it's more religious on this album. I just don't understand anyone saying he didn't have bars on here. He has bars. Just because Hov had better performances doesn't mean Jay Elect was weak or something.
I think it’s nikkas that don’t really listen to jay electronica like that and don’t realize how massive his discography is and are only going off exhibit A/C, Eternal Sunshine and the loosies from act II
 

Ethnic Vagina Finder

The Great Paper Chaser
Joined
May 4, 2012
Messages
54,709
Reputation
2,605
Daps
154,883
Reppin
North Jersey but I miss Cali :sadcam:
WHOLE ALBUM IS FULL OF
SPIRITUAL, RELIGIOUS, MOVIE/TV REFERENCES.

WHEN YOU CONSIDER
HE ONLY DROPPED 10 VERSES
ITS VERY LAZY WRITING.

LIKE DUDE YOU CANT GIVE US
ORIGINAL THOUGHTS/GEMS WITH THE LIMITED
BARS YOU PROVIDED?
:devil:
:evil:



HE even admitted on the album that he wasn't inspired. Exhibit C came out 11 years ago. He's 43 years old now.

It aint but so much he can rap about since his lifestyle isn't conducive to what the majority of consumers like. I don't even think he wanted to drop an album. I think Jay Z had to talk him into it.... and actually make it a collab project, just to fill in he content.

I mean you have a Jay Z collaboration project and they were only able to muster 9 songs? :dahell: and it was really songs since one of the songs is 10 years old.

That should tell you all you need to know.
 

erker

All Star
Joined
Jul 9, 2012
Messages
3,168
Reputation
759
Daps
8,297
Reppin
The Netherlands
Jay Electronica’s Deceptively Dynamic Debut.

Having one of the most mysterious personas in Hip-Hop Jay Electronica remains on brand with his debut. Announced out the blue only 40 days prior and released during what some propose are the end times the enigmatic MC shocks, pleases and perplexes with his first official LP. Jay Electronica garnered massive hype among Hip-Hop purists in 2007. The allure continued to grow with is sporadic releases and growing Hip-Hop connections, befriending heavy weights like Just Blaze, Erykah Badu, Nas & P. Diddy over the years. The hype reached a fever pitch in 2009 when super producer Just Blaze leaked 2 tracks they had worked on, and perhaps never intended to release, Exhibit A and Exhibit C. Both tracks took wings and spread throughout Hip-Hop sending a shock-wave through the culture unlike anything seen before. Jay Electronica’s reclusive and mysterious persona only added to the bubbling attention. When such attention is garnered fan’s naturally want more from the artist, Jay Electronica gave less, a lot less. The standard industry rules did not seem to apply to him, the rookie hype and attention was simply left to exist, Jay did not seem inclined to capitalize on it at all. The hype continued to grow for his debut, since Exhibit C a decade passed with only a few sporadic releases and many release dates announced and pushed back and then subsequently cancelled.

With immense hype it is almost impossible to live up to expectation, expectation that is not based on anything tangible but a collection of many individual fan’s imaginations visualizing a successful version of a vague abstraction. Fan’s want something perfect and envision a perfect product but this vision is based on nothing that already exists and simply only resides in their minds. Very few options remained on releasing an album that could live up to impossible standards, on ‘The Blinding’ Jay Electronica references releasing a project ‘just so y’all can pick me apart’. Another obstacle was the overlooked fact that Jay Electronica, though on a major label with major connections, is not a mainstream artist, when creating from his core he is more a writer of incredible vision, an astute analyst and pundit, not a commercial artist set for crossover success. His previous releases were very unconventional and abstract, many neglecting standard song structure, choruses or even time length. This was sure to factor in while releasing a debut album for listeners who only know of Jay because of the hype and not the music itself. They surely would be caught off guard by an LP of world music loops, no drums, obscure film snippets, religious lectures and no choruses. Like a magician pulling off an advanced ruse the much needed sleight of hand comes in the form of Jay-Z. Jay-Z is featured on 8 out of the 10 tracks and his purpose serves many functions, his universal appeal makes an otherwise abstract album acceptable to the masses on one hand and on the other he serves as a distraction for all the potential hate due to the insurmountable hype. The criticisms that have popped up are not with the lyrics, beats, track listing, or anything else, they are with the fact that Jay Electronica’s long awaited debut album is a group project with Jay-Z, one of Hip-Hop’s most celebrated artist ever. In the Tribe Called Quest documentary ‘Beats, Rhymes, And Life’ Chris Lighty described the function of Phife Dawg in relation to Q-tip was to reach the streets if Tip was “on the moon”. On Watch The Throne Kanye plays a similar role over-emphasizing his simplistic and immature side as well as his humor for mass appeal while Hov is more philosophical, introspective and self-aware.

On A Written Testimony Jay-Z takes his turn playing the role of the social anchor. Jay Electronica in turn takes his esoteric style further into space, literally referencing aliens and other of the more fantastical elements of religious texts and NOI lore. Jay Electronica’s fingerprint is over the album a lot more than listeners consciously notice, his role as producer is overlooked, the overall feel and content is just as much Jay Electronica as are his verses. Producing 6 of the 10 tracks the criticism of not being on his own debut album enough is less accurate, from the overall tone, Jay-Z’s subject matter, samples, audio snippets, loops and release Jay Electronica is felt on his debut album more than most major label artists are. Jay Electronica’s presence on his album mirrors his persona in Hip-Hop, he is felt more than seen. Most major label debuts have every popular artist featured on every big song and high profile producers producing songs for the sole purpose of making a commercially successful product. Contrary to that Jay Electronica does not cater to any sound or formula. Jay Electronica self-produced a signature ‘Jay Electronica album’ and simply had one guest artist come on board for the purpose of making his unorthodox art easily digestible. When looking back at the work Jay Electronica did release in the years since Exhibit C it’s rare to find a track with more than one verse, or even a chorus. His debut is as true to self as all his previous work, the only addition is having Jay-Z feature to push the songs to ‘standard’ length and to be an anchor for listeners who are lost listening to music that is far from conventional.

Musically A Written Testimony has the fantastical feel of a classic Disney score, Jay flawlessly mixes dusty loops of world music with abstract sounds and percussive minimalism. ‘The Ghost Of Soulja Slim’ kicks off the album, starting with a genius verse by Hov, fans still have to wait to hear Jay Electronica. By the time Jay Electronica comes in the song is half over and his verse is littered with double entendres referencing his label, the NOI, Tidal and Black Panther. A majority of the outside production is featured on the next track ‘The Blinding’ (produced by Swizz Beats, Hit-Boy, AraabMuzik and G. Ry) which features a very conservative use of Travis Scott in a two part track. The first half ends way too early leaving fans wondering why they did not extend the beat and have Hov and Jay trade rhymes longer. The second half gets introspective where the listener gets a glimpse into Jay Electronica’s thought process and fears. Alchemist and No I.D. also give production to the album but it’s so closely in the style of Jay Electronica that they just chop up loops and leave them untouched as finished instrumentals. ‘Ezekiel’s Wheel’ finds Jay delivering his most fiery rhymes over obscure clicks and clanks for percussion. Hov at this point in the album takes a backseat and only does the hooks if he even is on a track towards this last leg of the LP. The final track ‘A.P.I.D.T.A.’ concludes the album and strikes an emotional chord, with production by Khruangbin the overall feel is emotive, dreamy, and melancholy. Jay Electronica’s verses are delivered like poetry, a page in his diary detailing the loss of life and the impermanence of our physical form. A perfect final track for an album that perfectly deals with immense attention, giving a product that both answers and retains the mystery.

Rating: 10/10

-By Dan Stuckie



HE even admitted on the album that he wasn't inspired. Exhibit C came out 11 years ago. He's 43 years old now.

It aint but so much he can rap about since his lifestyle isn't conducive to what the majority of consumers like. I don't even think he wanted to drop an album. I think Jay Z had to talk him into it.... and actually make it a collab project, just to fill in he content.

I mean you have a Jay Z collaboration project and they were only able to muster 9 songs? :dahell: and it was really songs since one of the songs is 10 years old.

That should tell you all you need to know.

I'll take quality over quantity any day. And this is quality music. Sorry you don't feel that way.
 
Top