Albums Jay Electronica - A Written Testimony (Discussion Thread)

[The Ruler 09]

ain't no classic breh

A lot of people feel it is, can't even count how many people I seen say this whether it be people who've said it to me directly or online such as Twitter or Instagram. Classic and masterpiece are 2 of the most common descriptions have seen.

 

[419scam]

A lot of people feel it is, can't even count how many people I seen say this whether it be people who've said it to me directly or online such as Twitter or Instagram. Classic and masterpiece are 2 of the most common descriptions have seen.

idiots calling everthing today a classic, a classic is something who stoods the test of time/is timeless music and if people in 20 years hear it and go „damn“, it is one

 

[The Ruler 09]

 

[The Ruler 09]

idiots calling everthing today a classic, a classic is something who stoods the test of time/is timeless music and if people in 20 years hear it and go „damn“, it is one

A classic is also something of the highest quality, some people can tell early how it will stand the test of time. Every album that we deem as classics were classic when they came out, it just took people different amount of times to realise it and some still debate it. Not every single person will think any album is classic, a lot are feeling like this is though and I agree.

 

[Majestic]

A lot of people feel it is, can't even count how many people I seen say this whether it be people who've said it to me directly or online such as Twitter or Instagram. Classic and masterpiece are 2 of the most common descriptions have seen.

those clowns know nothing about music. this album ain't no classic.

 

[Majestic]

idiots calling everthing today a classic, a classic is something who stoods the test of time/is timeless music and if people in 20 years hear it and go „damn“, it is one

you don't need 20 years to pass for an album to be a classic. A classic is a piece of work that is of exceptional quality. Example would be TPAB and MBDTF which were classics the first day they dropped due to how exceptional both albums are.

 

[The Ruler 09]

those clowns know nothing about music. this album ain't no classic.

That's simply your own opinion, which you're entitled to but that's all it is. Mine and many others opinion is it is a classic, and I know my opinion is expert. Have been paid for opinions/reviews and nurtured many artists. Doesn't mean anybody has to agree but I'm at least entitled to my opinion and so are the many others that feel it's classic, nobody is going to suppress that, if that's how we feel are gonna say it.

You can look at my history even on here, I don't go around calling every album I like a classic, even from artists I rank way higher than Jay Electronica, but based off this body of work I'm objectively and genuinely saying it's a classic.

I stand by that, others can have their own opinion also, but mine is clear and won't be altered, unless it changes for myself, but I've listened to it so many times already that I think that's highly unlikely, infact I'm enjoying and feeling it more on every listen, classic. Also others I know that have high expertise also have said the same thing, some are artists. So we won't be dismissed, though everybody is entitled to their own individual view and opinion of course.

 

[Majestic]

A classic is also something of the highest quality, some people can tell early how it will stand the test of time. Every album that we deem as classics were classic when they came out, it just took people different amount of times to realise it and some still debate it. Not every single person will think any album is classic, a lot are feeling like this is though and I agree.

then it's a personal classic to them, not really a consensus classic. Many people lack the musical knowledge to deem whether an album is a classic or not. Many people don't know how to critique an album objectively, it the reason why some clowns will give MBDTF a 0/10 because of the taylor swift incident and not put person feelings aside to critique an album objectively. if the whole music journalist industry never put aside their personal feelings when judging MBDTF then Kanye would never have got a 10 from cacfork, or a 94/100 on metacritic.

 

[Majestic]

That's simply your own opinion, which you're entitled to but that's all it is. Mine and many others opinion is it is a classic, and I know my opinion is expert. Have been paid for opinions/reviews and nurtured many artists. Doesn't mean anybody has to agree but I'm at least entitled to my opinion and so are the many others that feel it's classic, nobody is going to suppress that, if that's how we feel are gonna say it.

You can look at my history even on here, I don't go around calling every album I like a classic, even from artists I rank way higher than Jay Electronica, but based off this body of work I'm objectively and genuinely saying it's a classic.

I stand by that, others can have their own opinion also, but mine is clear and won't be altered, unless it changes from my own opinion, but I've listened to it so many times already that I think that's highly unlikely, in fact I'm enjoying and feeling it more on every listen, classic. Also others I know that have high expertise also have said the same thing, some are artists. So we we be dismissed, though everybody is entitled to their own individual view and opinion of course.

Not to be rude but if think this album is a classic then all i can do is

When you call a rap album a classic you are putting it in the same conversation as albums such as Aquemini, TPAB, Illmatic, Moment of Truth, Supreme Clientele, Madvillainy, OB4CL, Liquid Swords etc. Are you telling me that A Written Testimony, an album not even better than Gibb's Bandana can hold it's own against those albums?

You telling me that A Written Testimony is the same conversation as Supreme Clientele and Aquemini?

 

[Torrential]

I really wish Jay Elec released the solo album he was originally intending to put out. im not really feeling this one

 

[The Ruler 09]

then it's a personal classic to them, not really a consensus classic. Many people lack the musical knowledge to deem whether an album is a classic or not. Many people don't know how to critique an album objectively, it the reason why some clowns will give MBDTF a 0/10 because of the taylor swift incident and not put person feelings aside to critique an album objectively. if the whole music journalist industry never put aside their personal feelings when judging MBDTF then Kanye would never have got a 10 from cacfork, or a 94/100 on metacritic.

Everything is only a personal classic pretty much, there's people who say they don't think Illmatic is classic. Because they are talking in the sense of being the highest quality. I think it is but some others disagree.

As I said, what you're saying is merely your opinion, you don't get to be the sole authority on classic or judging other's musical knowledge which you aren't aware of.

I don't care about any of those outlets or any critics rating, that's not how I judge albums or classics. I judge it by how I feel and how it resonates with the people and this album is deeply.

And MBDTF isn't a classic to me at all, didn't even think it was a good album, highly overrated to me. You probably think it's classic, I can accept your right to your opinion but strongly disagree. From there, with this album, or any album people can then debate it on the merits of the album or agree to disagree.

 

[Majestic]

Everything is only a personal classic pretty much, there's people who say they don't think Illmatic is classic. Because they are talking in the sense of being the highest quality. I think it is but some others disagree.

As I said, what you're saying is merely your opinion, you don't get to be the sole authority on classic or judging other's musical knowledge which you aren't aware of.

I don't care about any of those outlets or any critics rating, that's not how I judge albums or classics. I judge it by how I feel and how it resonates with the people and this album is deeply.

And MBDTF isn't a classic to me at all, didn't even think it was a good album, highly overrated to me. You probably think it's classic, I can accept your right to your opinion but strongly disagree. From there, with this album, or any album people can then debate it on the merits of the album or agree to disagree.

1. Those who say Illmatic ain't a classic are idiots
2. Me using critics was to show you the importance of putting aside ones personal opinion
3.don't judge an album by how you feel and how it resonates with people.
4. The fact that you don't believe MBDTF says it all.

 

[Piff Perkins]

Album hasn't been out for a week, chill on the classic shyt. It's a great album. Only song I don't revisit much is the Travis one, which isn't even bad but feels like the end result of a compromise. Like you can almost feel like it was a track given to Jay Elect in hopes of mixing his sound with a more mainstream sound; throw in Travis for some streams and while not a single, you can tell if this wasn't a true labor of love the album would sound more like that track than the rest.

Shout outs to No ID and Alchemist btw. Both their beats fit the tone and sound of the album perfectly.

As I said a few days ago...I don't think his album would have come out if not for Hov getting on damn near every track.

 

[The Ruler 09]

Not to be rude but if think this album is a classic then all i can do is

When you call a rap album a classic you are putting it in the same conversation as albums such as Aquemini, TPAB, Illmatic, Moment of Truth, Supreme Clientele, Madvillainy, OB4CL, Liquid Swords etc. Are you telling me that A Written Testimony, an album not even better than Gibb's Bandana can hold it's own against those albums?

You telling me that A Written Testimony is the same conversation as Supreme Clientele and Aquemini?

It's not rude, it's your opinion which I've said you're entitled to, but I don't care about your opinion, only my own. Your opinion has no sway on how I personally view the album, I'm judging it off my own thoughts, and I and many others feel it's a classic.

And you keep stating your opinion as fact when it's not at all, I have this better than Bandana for sure, a long way. And TPAB isn't a classic to me either, so yes I have it as better than some of those albums and it just shows how subjective the topic is.

And in regards to other classics, I'm not saying it's the greatest rap album ever or anything like that, but I am saying I believe it to be a classic and I believe it will stand the test of time in the sense it will be able to be played and enjoyed in 10 years, 20 years, 30 years and beyond that. Because the foundations are strong, there is craft and emotion in the album, also nothing I consider filler, every song is dope in it's own right and there's some universal themes on the album that will always be relevant, for example A.P.I.D.T.A, it's a theme that is timeless and will always be relevant, as long as humans are mortal, and even if somehow immortality was reached it's a time capsule of when it wasn't.

 

[The Ruler 09]

1. Those who say Illmatic ain't a classic are idiots
2. Me using critics was to show you the importance of putting aside ones personal opinion
3.don't judge an album by how you feel and how it resonates with people.
4. The fact that you don't believe MBDTF says it all.

Exactly, it shows I'm not swayed by online critique opinions or go by Metacritic or Pitchfork ratings and judge for myself based off the actual album.