The minute the east got slightly better the “winning” all stopped 
Jason Kidd is one of the most overrated players ever
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This is rich for someone who was all up in my Malone/Stockton thread
The same "young Jason" that got destroyed by Avery Johnson in the '98 playoffs?
Nothing hyperbole about it.
I've broken it down many times on this board.
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malone and stockton have a laundry list of failures as a duo.
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Who was not that said Lowry > Kidd?
That shyt is still a crazy take imo although it’s gotten closer over the years.
That shyt is still a crazy take imo although it’s gotten closer over the years.
So does Jason Kidd. Did nothing in the west playoffs a franchise guy for 8 years.
It's funny how there seems to be this narrative on here that NBA fans love to tear down legends, as if great players of today aren't ridiculed 1000000x more. Tatum will go down as one of the best wings of his generation, yet when the Celtics have crashed out of the playoffs every season, there's been like 10+ threads shytting on him.
I swear some of y'all live in an alternate reality.
I swear some of y'all live in an alternate reality.
OP isn't entirely wrong. Being a 10x all-star at the time when the PG spot was nowhere neeaarrr as talented as it is now isn't THAT big of a deal.
Looking back, I'd have to agree.
While Jason Kidd has accumulated some impressive stats in his career (assists, 3 pointers made), he just didn't move the needle much in terms of facilitating an efficient or high octane offense.
If ever there was an argument for a "stat padder" it might actually be Jason Kidd.
At the time I thought he was really great. But as you gain a better understanding of the game and what correlates to winning, he looks far less impressive.
That said, I think a lot of fans are prisoners of the time. Jason Kidd played at perhaps the last era where a point guard could just focus on assists and do almost nothing else....and still be regarded as good. It's like the defense-only Shortstop in baseball. The Omar Vizquel of the NBA.
You can point to whatever accolades he won. But the fact is, his skills just don't translate well and if we could redo things, he'd be far less awarded than he was.
While Jason Kidd has accumulated some impressive stats in his career (assists, 3 pointers made), he just didn't move the needle much in terms of facilitating an efficient or high octane offense.
If ever there was an argument for a "stat padder" it might actually be Jason Kidd.
At the time I thought he was really great. But as you gain a better understanding of the game and what correlates to winning, he looks far less impressive.
That said, I think a lot of fans are prisoners of the time. Jason Kidd played at perhaps the last era where a point guard could just focus on assists and do almost nothing else....and still be regarded as good. It's like the defense-only Shortstop in baseball. The Omar Vizquel of the NBA.
You can point to whatever accolades he won. But the fact is, his skills just don't translate well and if we could redo things, he'd be far less awarded than he was.
I've made threads before about the east being trash after jordan and Shaq left (until Detroit rose up) , so I'm not propping Kidd up too much bc he went to the Finals. But he does deserve SOME props for that, regardless.
As far as discounting his passing ability and highlights, well name 10 other PGs with better passing reels...matter of fact, just show me 3 players
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Jason Kidd in his prime did not have a player alongside him at the level of Karl Malone although Im not sure had he there would be much of a difference because his J simply wasnt there
There really isn't.
The replies in this thread are a microcosm of just overrated he is. The majority of the posters in here are speaking about in him glowing terms, when his play was anything but. Nobody has debunked the OP, they've just come in and posted some vague/generic analysis about his game.
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