Japanese Researcher Wants America To “Apologize” For Bombing Them

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Coli is such a unserious site. Did not have “defend imperialist Japan” on my 2024 bingo card but here we are :mjlol:

Them dudes were doing resident evil fanfics IRL and were not going to stop, you had to get them out the paint.
 

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Japan was a militarist country that sought conquest over all of asia. They conquered Phillipines, Korea, Taiwan, etc and they committed horrible warcrimes in all those countries that are still talked about to this day. The Japanese at that time also believed they were racially superior and should be able to do whatever they want.

You can't include one part and not represent the way Japanese society functioned at the time. They were not a peaceful nation just looking to exist. They wanted land, resources and conquest.
Nothing that you said takes away from what I said.

And BTW, the US “conquered the Philippines and committed horrible war crimes in that country that are still talked about to this day” too…


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Coli is such a unserious site. Did not have “defend imperialist Japan” on my 2024 bingo card but here we are :mjlol:

Them dudes were doing resident evil fanfics IRL and were not going to stop, you had to get them out the paint.
The Coli and the internet in general is filled with literal stupid muthafukkas posing as smart.
 

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Everyone should apologise for any atrocities their countries committed against innocent civilians so both America and Japan should both apologise
It's exactly that and both nations haven't apologized for the shyt they've done. I think many have accepted that both nations won't apologize for stuff they've done. I am just amazed that many aren't aware of stuff Japan has done due to the soft power they've built up over the years.
 

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America won't apologize because this country has a god/savior complex.

It's the same similar reason why America doesn't and will never sincerely apologize to Black Americans.

There's this belief that's been instilled in many Americans, including the ones in this thread, and maybe even me where we believe that everything the US government and Military has done (and will do in the foreseeable future) is to protect the world and humanity from itself and presumed threats.

So therefore there's no way we can be in the wrong because in our minds we believe everything we've done in the past and will do in the future is and has been the right thing to do.

That's a form of rationalization.

There's a reason why we're the only country that gets mocked for being the “World Police 🙄” when nobody asked us to... indoctrination at it's finest.
 
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Dumbass fake revolutionaries defending a racist imperialist power that was aligned with nazis and fascists :mjlol:


Ironically imperial Japan represents everything that these dudes claim to be against, but instead of calling a spade a spade and realizing that regime was evil, they gotta pick the side against the US like a bunch of mindless sheep.
 

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They hate Japanese folks back in China and other parts of Asia, especially that generation.

You think the nukes were bad? They killed about 230k total people. Japan killed nearly 30 million people, nearly as bad as the Germans. They took slaves and made them work on a railroad.

China had about 15-20 million death and Russia had about 20-27 million deaths that mass majority civilians. History doesn't often mention how bad those two countries got it thanks to Japan and Germany respectively.
 
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Nearly all of our own military leaders and strategists were already saying that Japan was ready to surrender, we had seen the encrypted cables to prove it, and neither the bomb nor an invasion was necessary. They were already shook that Russia had entered the war against them, knew they could survive neither a siege nor a Russian invasion, and preferred to surrender to the Americans rather than the Russians (who unlike the Americans would keep any land they took).

This isn't just my opinion. This was the opinion of our own military leaders and strategists both BEFORE and AFTER the bomb was dropped. Truman made the decision to drop the bomb all the way back in April, irrespective of the military situation, of his own accord without consulting military or intelligence experts.






The same sort of racist bullshyt that people say about every enemy. Japan was no worse than plenty of White nations had been.





You're literally just regurgitating 1940s propaganda. Every nation has people who "don't want to give up", but the Japanese had already been discussing surrender for months beforehand and only needed assurances that the USA wasn't going to keep any land and the emperor would remain on the thrown (both of which the USA conceded to in the end anyway). America's refusal to give those assurances is the only reason the war lasted as long as it did.





1. Simply give the assurances they were asking for
2. Simple naval blockade, considering Japan's air/sea power were already devastated and they couldn't hurt anyone anymore.
3. Just wait for the Russians to keep advancing, since the Japanese were even more shook of losing to them and Russians don't even care about casualties like that.






The bombs had nothing to do with it other than provide a convenient excuse.
C/S this whole post :birdman:
 

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People really like just basking in their ignorance bet the thread ignores this and keeps on going on bullshyt assumptions
Japan was on demon time back in the day for sure, but it wasn't the civilians it was the government. Dropping two atomic bombs on them was definitely overkill
 

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Good read:

Circling back to our original question of whether the Japanese made an offer of surrender prior to the atomic bombings, it is very interesting to note that even if the Trohan article was 100% true, the memorandum it describes still wouldn’t constitute a real “offer to surrender” as most people understand it, because it wasn’t an official offer, and it did not represent the view of the Supreme War Council. All it would be was a more direct and concrete “peace feeler” than what would come later. It would be important to understanding the historical events, to be sure, but it wouldn’t actually change the overall conclusion.

In the end, the answer to the question motivating this series of posts — did the Japanese offer to surrender prior to Hiroshima? — remains a qualified no. There were elements of the Japanese high command that were looking for a diplomatic way out of the war, to be sure, and that does challenge the all-too-common narrative of the “fanatical Japanese” who left Truman et al. “with no choice” other than to use the atomic bombs. But it is not as easy as saying that the US deliberately foreswore credible surrender offers.

Their Supreme War Council was basically the most war wacky of MAGA Republicans.

Read the replies to the original thread, they had that shyt coming.


In addition to other Asians, they took Americans as slaves. Japan should pay reparations to all the countries around them.

I enjoy video games, synthesizers, watching some anime, etc. but these cats were tripping.
 
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