James Carville: It’s Time for a Daring Political Maneuver, Democrats "roll over and play dead. Allow the Republicans to crumble"

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What’s to be smug over. You’re the one who wants to chase after Trump voters.
If the Dems lost voters to Trump because they offered nothing and Trump was out there talking about no taxes on tips or overtime. That doesn't make them hardcore Trump voters. Dems lost the damn popular vote, that almost never happens. Are you planning to win the battleground states without the unions?
 

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The people who are going to disagree will probably pretend Democrats can do anything other than draw things out procedurally. The American people need to pay attention. Seeing a bee outside your window doesn't do anything. Having that sombytch sting you wakes you up.

People said "Not being Trump/Republican is not enough" so ok, here we go. Republican majorities. The Dems you have beef with? Primary them. The ones that are good? Support them. There isn't anything they can do to stop this agenda right now.

Most of the damage is being done Executively which can only be reigned in by Congress: The Republican Majority won't do anything. Trump in a month has only signed two bills into law. The big spending package will be mashed through reconciliation if the Republicans come to agreement which means it can NOT be filibustered. Dems are having town halls and constantly sounding the alarm but...people didn't listen before election time, they aren't listening quite as much yet. The only way to really slam the breaks on this shyt is for Republicans to step so deep in shyt that regular people can't help but react. Expect Medicaid and Social Security to be major tipping points, but even those won't be enough. A giant recession might tip the dominoes, but too many Americans don't know how government work so they will wait it out.
Remember the 1st time around when Trump said "what the hell do you have to lose?!"


Well it's time to let those same people that cheered him own and followed him find out just exactly what they have to lose.

Guy down the street from me is already finding out. He had Trump window curtains and Trump stickers all over his truck. I've never talked to him...but one of the neighbors have. He lost his federal job last week with the USDA and now is blaming Elon for everything.
 

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Bruh, you are one of those "I heard you" types? You hear people but don't listen? I don't support "Do nothing." I said what they should do, but what they can do legislatively to stop what is coming? Nothing. The old term "Trying to make a dollar out of 15 cents" comes to mind. They CAN'T do anything outside of running their mouths and saying no. Its literally what Republicans did to Obama when they couldn't stop anything until they won in the midterms his first go. Only difference is Obama wasn't trying to topple democracy so it's easy to forget.

The voting public voted or didn't vote for various reasons and it wasn't messaging. They either felt economic anxiety, were never going to vote in a woman (hence Latino vote going Republican for one), or were simply on the white supremacist wave. You do know the majority of voters are white, right? They went Republican. Add in the peeloffs from Latinos and a few other groups and we got what we got.

As for the algorithm, it is not a reason FOR them losing, but it explains stupid shyt like people googling if they can change their vote and if biden dropped out. Most people are not really paying attention to politics. They make their November decision in October. "Messaging" doesn't work if people literally don't see it. The Joe Rogan trump interview is currently at 5 million views on youtube. Kamala with Oprah is at 2.6 million. Not only did they not go to the right people but the "right people" also had an audience that wouldn't have been receptive to her. That is a problem with Democrats not having the media apparatus to back them like Republicans do, and that extends to popular influencers and podcasters. That said, the algorithms are a thing.

Lastly, you did not say what they should be doing. If nothing else, ignore everything else I said. Did you vote Democratic? If so, there was no further message for you. For those they don't have in the bag right now, what should they be doing? Getting arrested? Taking protests to peoples businesses? What should they be doing? PLEASE answer that question with an answer, not a "Don't do this" answer.
I already answered this question, the fact that you cannot comprehend the value of eliminating incompetence and weak branding strategies from the likes of James Carville kind of sums up why the cyclical nature of failure from the democrats will continue to happen.…you like losing you can't break from it.…you reduce everything to economic anxiety yet the democracts spent all last cycle bragging on how great the economy was :mjlol:


Yet you claim there's not a disconnect in the messaging lmao just completely confused and disconnected babble...

Then you claim that its because the majority of voters are white.…when has that not been the case? They haven't won the white vote since LBJ… Lmao

You claim that they have the right media outlets because of Joe Rogan while ironically in a thread from the New York times who has over 11 million subscribers giving a platform to this old decrepit buffoon James Carville telling democrats to brand themselves as the do nothing party :mjlol: Like what the fukk are you talking about.… having a platform to disseminate information means nothing if the information is shyt that people don't want to hear.…and I can assure you people do not want to hear how you’re creating a party strategy around how weak you are….its totally asinine… and if its not the message and its the messenger that people don't want to hear from what you're actually saying is that the democrats have failed to elevate the proper leaders of their party.. starting at the top of their ticket..either way its a sign of embarrassing incompetence

You claim the republicans also “did nothing” when Obama was president which is laughable.…they completely shifted even deeper to the right.…kicked off the tea party movement... platformed people like Sarah Palin... got rid of several of their former leaders including the Coup de grâce in packing up Boehner...I could go on and on.…how do you think they actually won their midterms in 2010? Why do you think that happened? Because they went out and told people “we can't do nothings yall” ? Lmao.… you're all over the place with excuse after excuse and yapping about nothing nikka
 
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Remember the 1st time around when Trump said "what the hell do you have to lose?!"


Well it's time to let those same people that cheered him own and followed him find out just exactly what they have to lose.

Guy down the street from me is already finding out. He had Trump window curtains and Trump stickers all over his truck. I've never talked to him...but one of the neighbors have. He lost his federal job last week with the USDA and now is blaming Elon for everything.
It seems like a lot of people jump to Elon cause they dont want to criticize Trump. Yea, these folks are all in and have to learn.
 

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What’s to be smug over. You’re the one who wants to chase after Trump voters.

Don’t commit genocide. (Dem politicians: No, we want blood!)

Offer tangibles to the American people. (Dem politicians: Get your money up, lil nikka.)

Don’t campaign with the Cheneys who killed 3,000 Americans and wasted a trillion dollars based on lies. (Dem politicians: I’m ride or die)

:mjlol:

Why are Democrats smug losers?
 

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“We’re the do nothing democrats, don't talk to us… go become republicans” :mjlol:


Just utter incompetence at every turn lmao.…like I said...you like losing

:gucci:

Now the Dems are the bad guys since you told'em to shut up?

Y'all cats don't know how this works. Get ya ass up and start showing Democrats how it's done.
 

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One of the central premises of this article is that the Democrats’ resistance strategy in Trump’s first term failed. I don’t really understand that argument. They won the House in 2018 and then won a trifecta in 2020.

Compare that to what happened during the first W. Bush term when they were frequently working with Republicans and “strategically retreating” with no political gains at all.

Just laying down and letting Republicans do whatever is not a good idea.
 

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It seems like a lot of people jump to Elon cause they dont want to criticize Trump. Yea, these folks are all in and have to learn.

I realized that, too. Trump is empowering Elon yet they don't want to blame Trump for anything.

They are still jackasses. Democrats need to drop progressives and chasing dimwitted Trump voters. They are natural born losers. Better off chasing the people that didn't vote and improving voter registration and voting laws.

:manny:
 

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Letting Republicans do what they want to prove Republican loyalists a point is an idiotic political strategy and goes to show why we're in the position we're in
 

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Don’t commit genocide. (Dem politicians: No, we want blood!)

Offer tangibles to the American people. (Dem politicians: Get your money up, lil nikka.)

Don’t campaign with the Cheneys who killed 3,000 Americans and wasted a trillion dollars based on lies. (Dem politicians: I’m ride or die)

:mjlol:

Why are Democrats smug losers?
This sounds like a Trump endorsement. Why aren’t you celebrating?
 

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One of the central premises of this article is that the Democrats’ resistance strategy in Trump’s first term failed. I don’t really understand that argument. They won the House in 2018 and then won a trifecta in 2020.

Compare that to what happened during the first W. Bush term when they were frequently working with Republicans and “strategically retreating” with no political gains at all.

Just laying down and letting Republicans do whatever is not a good idea.
There is no popular vote or Russia-gate angle this time to anchor resistance to trumps corruption; and he’s already been impeached and prosecuted multiple times.
 

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“We’re the do nothing democrats, don't talk to us… go become republicans” :mjlol:


Just utter incompetence at every turn lmao.…like I said...you like losing

The American people prefer Republicans :yeshrug: I don't like it but it is what it is
 

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There is no popular vote or Russia-gate angle this time to anchor resistance to trumps corruption; and he’s already been impeached and prosecuted multiple times.
It doesn’t matter, it’s still a better strategy than what Carville is suggesting.

Half the country still hates Trump. They have plenty to work with
 

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Don’t commit genocide. (Dem politicians: No, we want blood!)
Democrats in America aren't at war with palestine, fakkit. stop blaming america for israel's actions

and no one asked Hamas to start a war they couldn't finish :camby: you think Biden would have preferred that Hamas NOT carry out a massive terror attack? how did Hamas' choice work out for Gaza?
 
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