James Brown is the father of hip hop, so who is the mother ?

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Lmao yeah it's got to be Aunt Millie imo. She made a whole "fukk You" symphony


I remember in 96 vibe mag did an interview with Lil Kim and Millie going back n forth....They had Millie as the mother of all that raunchy shyt that would later influence the likes of HWA, BWP and Kim.


SMH @ that thread about how Black female ratchetnes didnt start in this decade and a bunch of posters were dapping up the guy who said he never heard of Millie Jackson so she dont count. :snoop: It had like 15 daps and it wasnt even a platinum thread.
 
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Lmao yeah it's got to be Aunt Millie imo. She made a whole "fukk You" symphony
Nah, Sylvia Robinson is the mother of hip-hop if you google mother of hip-hop she's the one that pops...even articles talking about it.


Y'all seem to be confusing the most sampled artist as the "mother", Millie Jackson hasn't played any role in the birth no matter how many times she's been sampled or relation because of her dirty talk...you could possibly say musically influential to particular artists but as the mother? Nah.
 
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Nah, Sylvia Robinson is the mother of hip-hop if you google mother of hip-hop she's the one that pops...even articles talking about it.


Y'all seem to be confusing the most sampled artist as the "mother", Millie Jackson hasn't played any role in the birth no matter how many times she's been sampled or relation because of her dirty talk...you could possibly say influential but as the mother? Nah.

  • This might be the first major-label rap song by a female artist. For a 1999 ad campaign for their Sprite brand, the Coca-Cola company ran an ad campaign called "The 5 Deadly Women," which featured Roxanne Shanté, Eve, Amil, Mia X, and Angie Martinez. They included Jackson in the campaign, who they determined had the first female rap record with this song.

  • A play on "Rapper's Delight" by the Sugarhill Gang, Jackson told us, "I was poking fun at rappers like the Sugarhill Gang and Kurtis Blow. Up until then, I thought that Roxanne Shanté was the first female rapper. She wasn't, but she is one of the 5 Deadly Women."
  • In our interview with Millie Jackson, she said: "When I did 'I Had To Say It,' I was just sayin' something, 'cause I felt like somebody oughta say it. In fact, I was thinking of what the next album is gonna be, and I had run out of things to talk about, because the record company didn't care what I did as long as I had one of those raps. So we were on the tour bus and I'm going through Jet magazine, and I'm saying, Okay. There's Arthur Ashe - with a white woman. There's the guy that plays Shaft on TV - with a white woman. Damn, there's O.J. Simpson - with a white woman. That's my next record. Somebody needs to say this. Why don't I say this? I have to say this. I sat right there and wrote the song before I got to the next gig. By then I had gotten over all my nerves, my fright and stuff, so it was no problem with me talking about people then."


Some Millie is the first female rapper because of this track


She shouted out Kurtis Blow and Sugar Hill in this so I see your point.
 
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I can see why folks are saying Millie Jackson, but I'm leaning more towards Betty Davis.

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I remember as a kid my pops would always say James Brown was the first rapper
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But he really was an MC if you think about it and he didn’t write his lyrics. His songs got sampled to death in the mid to late 80s becuz of those drums and bass lines. Even his voice was sampled a ridiculous amount of times. Even all his off shoot groups got sampled to death. For this reason I can’t say hip hop has a mother becuz what woman had that kinda impact on the culture?
 

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In your opinion, who would be elevated to the status of being considered the Mother of hip hop? and why?

had this discussion years ago and want to see who people name.

Probably Millie Jackson

Music Sermon: Millie Jackson - The Original Bad Girl
March 17, 2019 - 12:16 pm
by Naima Cochrane

You know that auntie who you were nervous to bring your young male friends around back in the day because she might proposition them in the kitchen when nobody was looking? Or the auntie liable to cuss out a family member or two after dinner for something that happened 12 years ago? The one that women in your family whispered about, warning not to leave men around alone? Who your mama didn’t want you to spend too much time with, but you were always excited to see because she was entertaining and was gonna slip you a little pocket change?

That auntie listens to Millie Jackson.

Millie Jackson is not just an R&B singer. She’s a Rhythm & Blues singer. She’s card party music. Your parents having people over and you’re not allowed to come downstairs music. Working class black folks hanging out down at the VFW after a long week with some well liquor music.

She’s been called “the queen of raunchy soul” and “the Godmother of rap,” because of her signature, no-holds-barred lyrical content and her long “raps” – profanity-laced, sexually explicit stories and jokes – interwoven through her songs and live sets. Auntie Millie is part singer and part outrageous comedienne – but don’t take her as a joke. She’s a deceptively serious artist, with career highlights that went largely unnoticed because of the raunch.

In our continued celebration of bad-ass women in music for the month of March, we present 11 essential Auntie Millie facts.

Music Sermon: Millie Jackson - The Original Bad Girl
i disagree with the millie jackson one cause although she was known for her sassy riske bold stories and jokes and she was recognize in hip hop. her music wasn't getting shine in early hip hop. early hip hop used james brown and formed break beats etc.. for breakdancers b-boys. breakdancers played vital role in forming hip hop and needed those break beats to dance. you also had disco music used in heavy rotation as MC's used the disco beats and extend the part of the disco beats the dj loved as well and MC's would talk hype up the crowd as crowd motivator during parties etc.. kurtis blow had good interview on Vlad tv also on youtube, TheFoundation, is a good hip hop youtube site

id say also james brown nor any other people song written wise didn't father hip hop, it was beats/sound
 
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