James Brown is the father of hip hop, so who is the mother ?

[Bolzmark]

If JB had a problem, it was probably over rap artists and their record companies STEALING his music without compensating him.

Hip hop has many elements but James Brown's music and influence was as important as ANY of them , was my point.
herc,bam,flash and any other pioneering dj would agree.

Don't get me wrong, I am not minimizing the importance of James Browns music to hip hop. During the first Golden Era, he was the go-to artist for a sample. Soooo many classics come from his records. I'm just not comfortable with giving him the Father of Hip hop title. That belongs to Kool Herc and its been pretty well established. Google Father of hip hop and see who comes up.

 

[FeverPitch2]

James Brown the Father of hip hop? Ehhhh...I don't know about that one fam. For one, he had some pretty negative things to say about hip hop back in the day. "All you rappers get off my tip!" was one of the things he said. If he was the Father he was an unintentional father and was mad at the chick for forcing him to be a Dad and pay child support. Secondly, yes there was a time when EVERYBODY was sampling Brown. But that started around the mid 80's. Hip hop had been around a good 13 years or so before that.

It doesn't matter how JB felt about hip-hop. That doesn't change the fact that his music laid the foundation. He made the shyt that was perfect for the b-boys to go off to and for emcees to run rhymes on. JB's approach to soul music, his concept of making it even more raw and focusing on rhythm over melody so that a new sub-genre called funk was born, is crucial to the evolution of hip-hop. Herc is the father of hip-hop but JB is the Godfather of Soul and Hip-hop. No debate on this one.

 

[FeverPitch2]

I'd agree with Millie Jackson. She was talkin street on mainstream records from way back.

 

[Bolzmark]

It doesn't matter how JB felt about hip-hop. That doesn't change the fact that his music laid the foundation. He made the shyt that was perfect for the b-boys to go off to and for emcees to run rhymes on. JB's approach to soul music, his concept of making it even more raw and focusing on rhythm over melody so that a new sub-genre called funk was born, is crucial to the evolution of hip-hop. Herc is the father of hip-hop but JB is the Godfather of Soul and Hip-hop. No debate on this one.

You agree then that JB is not the father of hip hop, Kool Herc is. That's all I'm saying. I would never underestimate the importance of JB's music to hip hop. I'm just not calling him the father of it. I can go with Godfather though

 

[Grand Eeezus Maxwell]

Her name came up. People probably associate her influence in Little Kim, but HWA and BWP from late 80s are her daughters too.

BWP were early-90’s, but I agree.

 

[Antwon Mitchell]

Sylvia Robinson (Co founder of Sugar Hill Records) is usually regarded & unanimously considered as the mother of hip-hop for being the one to help The Sugar Hill Gang come together and create Rappers Delight which is the first mainstream hip-hop song to gain attention.

 

[get these nets]

my intro to Millie Jackson was when she did a record with Whodini.

playback is slow

 

[get these nets]

Lyn Collins?

listen to this record, and try to name the songs that sampled it.

 

[bigdaddy88]

the oracle



maybe nina simone most songs that sample her are just

 

[get these nets]

Don't get me wrong, I am not minimizing the importance of James Browns music to hip hop. During the first Golden Era, he was the go-to artist for a sample. Soooo many classics come from his records. I'm just not comfortable with giving him the Father of Hip hop title. That belongs to Kool Herc and its been pretty well established. Google Father of hip hop and see who comes up.

posted this recently after having looked for online version for years

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/kool-herc-grandmaster-flash-bambaata-interview-1993.726943/

 

[posterchild336]

that's your opinion

but JB released this in 1984

JB is, to me the father of 90% of the music that came after him. period....hip hop or otherwise.

Before rappers started sampling him in later years......djs used to loop the breaks of his songs at parties to get the dancing into overdrive.

A father basically births something... He did not birth this movement... His samples played a major role and created a wave that has been riding since the 80s but let's not get the "father" of hip hip you can say soul yes buts it's two different genres hip hip borrowed from soul and that's what the beauty and art of hop hop is.. It's like gumbo everything mixed in one pot to give you something great

 

[smokeurobinson]

Probably Millie Jackson

I can see an argument for Millie.

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

Mine was the "pass the peas like we used to do" episode of Martin lol

Mine was too

 

[Rhapscallion Démone]

I can see an argument for Millie.

Lmao yeah it's got to be Aunt Millie imo. She made a whole "fukk You" symphony

 

[Black Steph Curry]

Muhammad ali and clyde stubblefield laid many bricks in tha house of hip hop as well.