Jamaicans gotta learn Mandarin to compete for jobs..
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thats where my mom is from and where i spent summers as a kidExplain...
i'm still Jamaican but
It's fukked up.
It's the shame of having of not being able to leave Ja and anger at you for coming back. (You wasted your chance to be an American)
Shame of having to ask for or receiving barrels or money. (A lot of old folks think they could go back to Ja after living abroad and leaving family in they house like it's sweet.
Shame they might make less money than you.
Being in a less economically strong, stable nation.
Anger you might hold your nationality over their head or as a badge. Like you're better than them.
And it's plainly apparent for 2nd gen.
Don't know how it is for you, but a lot of JA fall into the trap of thinking nationality trumps everything. My family and extended family does it to me and my generation. I feel like there's shytty support for keeping intact a Jamaican communities consciousness.
I mean when they make sure to correct you if you say you are Jamaican "
You are american."They in turn make sure to let you know in all kinds of ways how tough it is out there and how you grew up soft here or any Anglo or white country. Basically everybody looks at you as white-washed in a nut-shell.
Also, they do NOT emphasize the culture or any of that Hyphen business. That's why Ja's assimilate into AA's fast as hell. Food might survive for a gen or 2. Music too.
Edit: It's like a dude who left his very hood block and has a nice family decades later.
He can come back and get respect up to a point. But his kids? He'll laugh cause they wasn't raised in that hood to survive like him, even if they know alot, visit, and picked up some culture. He'll tell them this and his hood will definitely laugh and check them.
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It's fukked up.
It's the shame of having of not being able to leave Ja and anger at you for coming back. (You wasted your chance to be an American)
Shame of having to ask for or receiving barrels or money. (A lot of old folks think they could go back to Ja after living abroad and leaving family in they house like it's sweet.
Shame they might make less money than you.
Being in a less economically strong, stable nation.
Anger you might hold your nationality over their head or as a badge. Like you're better than them.
And it's plainly apparent for 2nd gen.
Don't know how it is for you, but a lot of JA fall into the trap of thinking nationality trumps everything. My family and extended family does it to me and my generation. I feel like there's shytty support for keeping intact a Jamaican communities consciousness.
I mean when they make sure to correct you if you say you are Jamaican "
They in turn make sure to let you know in all kinds of ways how tough it is out there and how you grew up soft here or any Anglo or white country. Basically everybody looks at you as white-washed in a nut-shell.
Also, they do NOT emphasize the culture or any of that Hyphen business. That's why Ja's assimilate into AA's fast as hell. Food might survive for a gen or 2. Music too.
Edit: It's like a dude who left his very hood block and has a nice family decades later.
He can come back and get respect up to a point. But his kids? He'll laugh cause they wasn't raised in that hood to survive like him, even if they know alot, visit, and picked up some culture. He'll tell them this and his hood will definitely laugh and check them.
Some Jamaicans on here said we a straight face that Jamaicans back in Jamaican do not claim Biggie. BIGGIE!
Jean Jacket
NOPE
Let Chiney man nyam ya food brehs...
I believe it.
Ancestry counts less than nationality.
It's really like on some gang shyt now that I think on it.
His parents left the hood, but they still grew up with and might support people there. Him tho? Naw he was born up here in apple pie America. He'll get a warning maybe
.After that?
It's like you have to wear your survival and lack of resources with honor. But at the same time make sure if you leave, you don't come back.
Jamaican parents do not really pass down Jamaican culture. Like Jammer said, we are constantly told we are Americans/yankees. even Jamaicans that are abroad for awhile will get questioned on their Jamaicaness when they return. i can give a lot of examples of this
i guess for British and Canadian second generation kids, there is no other black culture around to assimilate into so they keep patois and other stuff around longer than Jamaican Americans. and obviously if you grow in large Jamaican communities like the tristate or Florida you will keep the Jamaican culture but you're never seen as Jamaican by Jamaicans born on the island.
meanwhile i know for a fact haitian and dominican kids are told they are haitian and dominican.
I believe it.
Ancestry counts less than nationality.
It's really like on some gang shyt now that I think on it.
His parents left the hood, but they still grew up with and might support people there. Him tho? Naw he was born up here in apple pie America. He'll get a warning maybe
After that?
It's like you have to wear your survival and lack of resources with honor. But at the same time make sure if you leave, you don't come back.
My Jamaican uncle never really did this with his kids.
I remember saying before that when looking for pics these Jamaican instagram thots HARDLY and I mean HARDLY represent their country. You gotta do some deep ass research to find out their ethncity.
I did not know AJ Love on IG was Jamaican for example.Meanwhile the Haitian and Dominican thots on IG be SCREAMING that they're Haitian and Dominican with a bunch of flags and yet they were born in America and never visited their home country.
Can I ask how Americanized do find them on a scale from 1 (not at all) to 10 (totally).
I knew about Oliver the comedy show but barely knew anything about Ms. Lou.
Most of the stuff I picked up was by association. I visited twice as well.
No accent tho.
My cousins have more of one than me and my younger sister, even if they're mostly americanized.
another reason is Jamaica is a young country whearas DR and Haiti have been countries since the 1800s.I remember saying before that when looking for pics these Jamaican instagram thots HARDLY and I mean HARDLY represent their country. You gotta do some deep ass research to find out their ethncity.
Meanwhile the Haitian and Dominican thots on IG be SCREAMING that they're Haitian and Dominican with a bunch of flags and yet they were born in America and never visited their home country.
Can I ask how Americanized do find them on a scale from 1 (not at all) to 10 (totally).
I knew about Oliver the comedy show but barely knew anything about Ms. Lou.
Most of the stuff I picked up was by association. I visited twice as well.
No accent tho.
My cousins have more of one than me and my younger sister, even if they're mostly americanized.
only because my grandmother was adamant that her grandchildren knew they were Jamaican
I would say at an 7.5
Can I ask how Americanized do find them on a scale from 1 (not at all) to 10 (totally).
I knew about Oliver the comedy show but barely knew anything about Ms. Lou.
Most of the stuff I picked up was by association. I visited twice as well.
No accent tho.
My cousins have more of one than me and my younger sister, even if they're mostly americanized.
I remember saying before that when looking for pics these Jamaican instagram thots HARDLY and I mean HARDLY represent their country. You gotta do some deep ass research to find out their ethncity.
Meanwhile the Haitian and Dominican thots on IG be SCREAMING that they're Haitian and Dominican with a bunch of flags and yet they were born in America and never visited their home country.
Just googled her.
That face.
Them damn thighs.
I hate her and Cheela'sway.
another reason is Jamaica is a young country whearas DR and Haiti have been countries since the 1800s.
i grew up reading this book
only because my grandmother was adamant that her grandchildren knew they were Jamaican
I know more about Ms.lou now b'cuz Ishawna dissed her.
Hm,
I feel like that's the avg.
I don't know the state of the education system in Jamaica, is are there no engineers, construction companies, or Jamaican investors? 
Why do these islands continue to feed into these "structural adjustment" policies from Europe and East Asia?
Why do these islands continue to feed into these "structural adjustment" policies from Europe and East Asia?