Jake Paul knocking out that mma Cac is proof boxing is the superior form is self defense

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It probably. If two dudes want to fight a head up just throwing hands, then yeah boxing is superior. Some folks might want to wrestle though. I remember back in the day pulling a dude's shirt over his head and that was fair.
 

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I said it before but if 85% of heavyweight and light-heavyweight pro boxers took 6 months to a year to learn takedown defense, they would dominate the ufc if they transitioned in those division

I don't know about the lighter divisions though



They’re gonna have to learn more than that to compete at that level. They’re going to need to learn how to grapple, learn kickboxing, damn near completely change how they strike, and just all around add more to their fighting repertoire.


That’s could work to get them into an amateur mma league but otherwise :yeshrug:
 

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I said it before but if 85% of heavyweight and light-heavyweight pro boxers took 6 months to a year to learn takedown defense, they would dominate the ufc if they transitioned in those division

I don't know about the lighter divisions though
TDD would take more than 6 months to learn and boxers don't know how fight in the clinch or defend kicks either. In just about every boxer vs kickboxer/muay thai fighter match that allows kicks the fight ends up with the boxer getting his legs chopped up as soon as he gets into punching range. And that's without the threat of grappling.

It's a silly argument. You can think MMA is barbaric or whatever but if one guy is elite in punching, footwork, and head movement and the other guy is passable in all of those things as well as kicking, kneeing, elbowing, clinch work, takedowns, wrestling, submissions, AND ground and pound, he's going to win with increasing odds as the rules become less restrictive.

By the time the boxer learned enough techniques to not get smoked in the areas he doesn't know, he isn't a boxer anymore. He's an MMA fighter.
 

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They’re gonna have to learn more than that to compete at that level. They’re going to need to learn how to grapple, learn kickboxing, damn near completely change how they strike, and just all around add more to their fighting repertoire.


That’s could work to get them into an amateur mma league but otherwise :yeshrug:
nah...them dudes in those division ain't that crafted.

if those boxers need to learn grappling then those mma guys need to take boxing seriously
TDD would take more than 6 months to learn and boxers don't know how fight in the clinch or defend kicks either. In just about every boxer vs kickboxer/muay thai fighter match that allows kicks the fight ends up with the boxer getting his legs chopped up as soon as he gets into punching range. And that's without the threat of grappling.

It's a silly argument. You can think MMA is barbaric or whatever but if one guy is elite in punching, footwork, and head movement and the other guy is passable in all of those things as well as kicking, kneeing, elbowing, clinch work, takedowns, wrestling, submissions, AND ground and pound, he's going to win with increasing odds as the rules become less restrictive.

By the time the boxer learned enough techniques to not get smoked in the areas he doesn't know, he isn't a boxer anymore. He's an MMA fighter.
heavyweight mma guys don't kickbox like that. only one in the top 10 I can think about is Gane(who i think will be champ within 3 years because he's the most skilled)

most of these heavy guys are only elite at one skillset
 

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nah...them dudes in those division ain't that crafted.

if those boxers need to learn grappling then those mma guys need to take boxing seriously

heavyweight mma guys don't kickbox like that. only one in the top 10 I can think about is Gane(who i think will be champ within 3 years because he's the most skilled)

most of these heavy guys are only elite at one skillset
That's why I said passable. You don't need to be an elite kicker to fukk up the legs of someone who doesn't know how to deal with that.
 

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nah...them dudes in those division ain't that crafted.

Complete and utter cap :stopitslime:. Let a heavy weight boxer get in there with a jiu jitsu heavy weight like fabricio werdum, or a wrestler like Curtis Blaydes, or sambo guy like aleksei oleinik, after only a year of MMA training, they will get mauled unless they can naturally get good.

if those boxers need to learn grappling then those mma guys need to take boxing seriously

Boxing in MMA is so different from regular boxing. Your stance is different, defence is different, how you even throw a strike is different. A boxer will have to reimagine oneself when transferring their skillset.

Yes if they go against a boxer that transferred they will have to work on their standup alittle more than normal of course, but those other aspects of their game wont need to adjust much because they will already have a major advantage in those areas.

I do wanna see your proposition become reality though, but boxers just gonna stick to their game because it's more money and they wont take a pay cut just to get did tf in and possibly hurt their boxing career with an injury.:yeshrug:
 

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then how come royce gracie got punched in the face and then proceeded to choke a nikka twice his size to sleep?
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mans tapped and royce didnt let go. he saw a glimpse of allah for a second.
Also, why didn't Art Jimmerson knock him out?:jbhmm:
 

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Tbh it just matters how good a fighter with killer instinct you are when it comes to a street fight

A master BJJ practitioner who spent decades training focusing only on skill and technique while remaining relaxed and could submit damn near any man on earth

Would get slumped by some teenage boxer with a mean right hook who is just built to fight and can go 0-100 in a snap of a finger

And both of them would get slumped by a dude who’s crazy enough to start shooting indiscriminately
 

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The excuses from MMA fans in here..

Bu bu but he was on a boxing setting! He only knows wrestling!

Nome of u were using the same logic when James Tony who had no grappling experience got subbed by randy couture..

Your boy Aakren had his ass handed to him by a Youtuber... MMA hold that L. :mjlol:
 

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Aight, all the MMA lovers are getting offended in this because MMA took an L by a Youtuber.

Next fight to settle this debate will be Clarissa Shields moving into MMA

I personally think people should stick to what they’re good at. Most MMA guys aren’t good at boxing like most boxers aren’t good at kicks or wrestling or whatever. And like most wrestlers usually aren’t good at either. And don’t even mention streetfights because these “sports” are not an uncontrolled, “anything can go” environments.
 
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No one is getting bothered by MMA fighters losing to boxers in boxing matches. The most elite of elite MMA strikers would get worked by mid-tier boxers in a boxing match. It's the leap from that to thinking that boxers would beat MMA fighters in anything else that is puzzling. Point karate, kickboxing, muay thai, wrestling, jujitsu, judo, grappling, OR a street fight, the MMA guy is going to beat the boxer in most scenarios if we're talking about fighters of equivalent levels in their professions. The thing boxers definitively beat MMA fighters in is getting paid.

But we all know this deep down, just some people like to troll MMA fans.
 
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