Joe Dumars is better than Ja Morant.
That nikka need some p*ssy or a pack of cigarettesThis nikka is so furious over Jordan being the goat
This. Dumars was an elite defender. Ja dont know what defense is.
These young ass nikkas dont know nothing about defense. It aint nothin about athleticsm. It all about the will and communication. Dumars was one of the smartest cat who was a general on defense.
Ja aint even coming near our paint cuz he know we aint just gonna watch that skinny ass nikka dunk all over us. We would body him all day and make him a hoe ass jump shooter.
Of course, but to be fair, this is standard of most scoring guards that are good defensively.Still didn't lock them down either though. Can you name a single playoff series where he locked down the other team's star player?
Penny had no trouble putting up numbers in 2000 WCSF.
Steve Smith was hot all series in the 2000 WCF.
Miller and J-Rose both went off repeatedly in 2000 Finals.
Smith had no problem scoring in 2001 playoffs either.
He had to be taken off Iverson in the 2001 Finals cause he couldn't stop him.
Bibby was a beast in the 2002 WCF.
Kidd had a huge series in the 2002 Finals.
Troy Hudson of all people put up 24ppg against him in 2003.
Stevie Franchise got better than usual numbers in 2004.
Sprewell got his same as he always does in 2004.
Billups and Hamilton both had no problem in 2004.
Nash and Barbosa were both burning nets in 2006.
Barbosa put up 21ppg off the bench in 2007 while Nash did his thing on autopilot.
Deron Williams put up huge numbers in 2008.
Ray and Pierce both lit shyt up in 2008 Finals.
After that they mostly started hiding Kobe and using other players to defend the opponent's main scoring option.
I legit can't think of a single playoff series in his career where Kobe was matched up against the other team's star perimeter player and significantly limited him.
Please ignore me then nikka. We are better when idiots like you can't engage with real nikkas like me. You clown ass nikka. fukk outta here and suck a dikk you fakkit ass non Harlem ass nikka. fukk ass nikka, blow your fukking head off Cobain style p*ssy
They didn't watch him play, really. It's like when I see some motherfukkers talking shyt about Federer, and didn't watch him when he moved like a panther circa 2003-2006. Fed was never mentally the toughest, and he's suffered for that because Nadal and Djoke are beasts in terms of mental toughness, but his peak was something to witness.One thing I've learned over the many years of discussing Jordan on message boards is that most people who pull the "overrated" card either dislike him personally, and can't put those feelings aside, or didn't watch him play. Some people, even in the face of overwhelming evidence, need to play the contrarian.
For those that didn't watch him play, and don't believe he could possibly have been that good I get it. It's hard not to believe that someone like that isn't largely a result of myth making. However, once in a while someone actually comes along that is as good as the myth. Jordan was just a once in a lifetime, or several, level athlete - the perfect combination of aesthetically pleasing and substantively gifted. Does that mean there are no players who are in his stratosphere, no. However, in my opinion, and most of the basketball world from casual to seasoned fans - there is a clear distinction between him and everyone else.
It's not really worth getting into the long back and forths about it anymore to me. Time goes on and everyone's legend - even Jordan's - will lessen. However, considering that he was just overwhelmingly voted better than Lebron in every category even by younger fans all these years later, is a testament to his enduring legacy. The chances of seeing anything like it for a long long time is slim. I know a lot of people hate that, but again sometimes things just are what they are.
As for Ja, most will look at the statement as silly, a few low information people will agree with him and this will be forgotten soon enough. It won't change that he'll need to do a lot more than talk to build his legacy, or the fact that he said it from the safety of not having to play him. I respect people a lot more that talk tough when they have to face the King - not when the King is safely retired and they know it will never happen.
Reasons why Michael Jordan stans are the worst.One thing I've learned over the many years of discussing Jordan on message boards is that most people who pull the "overrated" card either dislike him personally, and can't put those feelings aside, or didn't watch him play. Some people, even in the face of overwhelming evidence, need to play the contrarian.
For those that didn't watch him play, and don't believe he could possibly have been that good I get it. It's hard not to believe that someone like that isn't largely a result of myth making. However, once in a while someone actually comes along that is as good as the myth. Jordan was just a once in a lifetime, or several, level athlete - the perfect combination of aesthetically pleasing and substantively gifted. Does that mean there are no players who are in his stratosphere, no. However, in my opinion, and most of the basketball world from casual to seasoned fans - there is a clear distinction between him and everyone else.
It's not really worth getting into the long back and forths about it anymore to me. Time goes on and everyone's legend - even Jordan's - will lessen. However, considering that he was just overwhelmingly voted better than Lebron in every category even by younger fans all these years later, is a testament to his enduring legacy. The chances of seeing anything like it for a long long time is slim. I know a lot of people hate that, but again sometimes things just are what they are.
As for Ja, most will look at the statement as silly, a few low information people will agree with him and this will be forgotten soon enough. It won't change that he'll need to do a lot more than talk to build his legacy, or the fact that he said it from the safety of not having to play him. I respect people a lot more that talk tough when they have to face the King - not when the King is safely retired and they know it will never happen.
You are a repressed homosexual. You can go and jackoff to MJ highlights with the gay section of your favorite porn sites open in the other tabs. Gay pride ain't got nothing on MJ stans in terms of homosexualsLook at chump all emotional. And since you want to neg folks, I'll reciprocate it
Reasons why Michael Jordan stans are the worst.
1. Assumes people don't like him when that couldn't be further from the truth. You can like MJ. If you think he's one of the best to ever play, why wouldn't you like him? When someone doesn't think he's the GOAT is just that. MJ stans take it as a personal slight. One of the biggest reasons Michael Jordan stans are unbearable and the lowest IQ sports fans of all of sports. Generally a MJ stan has a IQ below 100 or they are 50 years old and older thinking everything was better in the 90s. Abe Simpson ass nikkas
2. Why is it always the low BBIQ functional retards like this bozo always saying, you didn't watch the game. nikka, all I do and have done is watch the game. I am willing to watch any full game you post and willing to analyze it but that's MJ stans kryptonite. Them losers ass nikkas just watch cut clips and youtube highlights. I can see a MJ stan a mile away. They are usually broke. Retarded. Repressed homosexuals. Tariq Nasheed or Rush Limbaugh stans. Gets no bytches. Insanely low BBIQ. They play the game like they are slashers but they can't dribble, shoot, or pass the rock and just end up looking like garbage verisons of Josh Christopher. Them and their friends collective BBIQ equals 1 in 2k.
3. When a nikka says once a lifetime, someone becomes as good as a myth, you know that nikka is retarded. That's just you hyping the nikka like a myth you bum ass nikka.
4. Overwhelming evidence to MJ stans is nonsensical non sequitur nikka babble. nikka! He won 6 out of 6 rings. He won a DPOY award. nikka! He scored 37 ppg and 30ppg as a rookie. nikka! He could have average 10 assists a game. nikka! He could have shot it like Curry but he didn't need to. This is typically what I hear from MJ stans. Retarded shyt.
Are they willing to break down tape? Never. Do they even care? Of course not. But you want to make them mad
Why was MJs team ass in the 80s, even Bron and Luka took their bum squads to more success. Why MJ had a top 11 pick every year from 83 to 89, some years, multiple top 10 picks. How many playoffs series wins MJ got without Pippen? Why is Pippen guarding all of the best offensive players on the perimeter? Why is Jordan guarding Craig Ehlo and Randy Wittman. This your DPOY? Michael Jordan stans hate when someone matches them for their non sequitur bullshyt and refuse to discuss his game.
A poster asked due, what does MJ do defensively that shows he can guard Ja? Of course, the truthful answer is, nikka, MJ would get cooked, anyone would get cooked, it's Ja Morant, you need a team to guard him, with his playmaker, it's a team effort but nope, what did the dumb nikka do. He doubled down, said Ja would stuggle to get 10ppg while MJ would score 60. That's the most asinine shyt I've ever heard in my life. I am convinced Michael Jordan stans are the most retarded group of dumb nikkas to walk this planet.
Post full games and let's talk if you tried of non sequiturs. I never met a MJ stan that was tried of non sequiturs. That tends to be their calling card.lol, I'm zen on this subject now. I've done all the point by pointing, stats, era comparisons and all that dozens of times over the years. At this point, nothing is going to make a Jordan contrarian change his mind, and I certainly am not changing mine so its pointless. Just the same conversations in circles. You're not bringing anything new to the discussion, trust me. The insults and such over an opinion says more about your feelings on this than me.
Nah, spending hours at a time writing paragraphs on a message board getting mad isn't going to diminish Jordan. Thinking you've come up with THE points to take him down a peg that no one ever thought of isn't going to do it either. Jordan just is what he is - the GOAT. The majority of analysts, fans, players, etc. reached that conclusion long ago. That's good enough. There will always be a percentage of people who argue against anything. I bet a percentage of straight black males out there honestly would be like "Halle Berry? Hell no, I wouldn't touch that unattractive chick". No such thing as 100% agreement on any issue.
So carry on "b*tch this", "bum n**" "Jordan faced plumbers" "Jordan stans oooh!" ing. It won't do anything but keep you busy for long periods of time changing zero minds.