J. Cole... What A Disappointment
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Oh well in that case I get what you're saying.
Yeah I agree Lately Eminem hasn't been THAT controversial but during his come back dude definitely was, recently he did have his GaGa punchline for "Bad Meets Evil" that started a little controversy.
Jay and Roc Nation is also trying to find alternative ways to make revenue outside of album sales, probably the reason he partnered with Live Nation.
Very different model for a major compared to what other people are going with.
'in off those management deals.Yeah but looking at it career wise, all the controversy, killing bytches, beefs, controversy and shyt was what created Ems career. So nah he's not an exception.
Oh well in that case I get what you're saying.
Yeah I agree Lately Eminem has been THAT controversial but during his come back dude definitely was, recently he did have his GaGa punchline for "Bad Meets Evil" that started a little controversy.
Jay and Roc Nation is also trying to find alternative ways to make revenue outside of album sales, probably the reason he partnered with Live Nation.
Very different model for a major compared to what other people are going with.
It should be interesting to see how he approaches his career from now on, I feel that he's been feeling himself a bit more after the album like an actual rap star lol.
specially with this joint
From "a lil birdy told me on the low you got an Illmatic nobody touching Nas nikka" to "I'm more biggie"
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Corrected that post, I meant to say he hasn't been that controversial lately, but Eminem as we know him is really associated with the word "Controversy" he definitely pushed peoples sensibilities with his music and what he was/is willing to say.
So yeah that's why I think Em is far from an Exception in that regard. lol
I thought the album was piff when it dropped but that only lasted for a couple weeks. I think he'll grow with his upcoming projects though. The standout joints from him album were dope
He'll probably be like Wale. The 2nd album is so important to his placing in the game. "Ambition" had me like
This album needs and Appreciation thread.
Piff Perkins
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I been in Cole's corner for years. He's a dope rapper, and in many ways the Drake v Cole thing reminded me of the Jay v Nas shyt from what I was a young nikka. Like Nas, Cole is the underdog and I had to ride for him.
I loved the mixtapes, and to me FNL was like the culmination of everything - the production, the dope rhymes, etc. It was a beautiful, classic mixtape, and my hype for the album couldn't be contained
...then the album came out and just sounded...empty. Lyrically it wasn't much, the content seemed old, and the beats...what happened? Everything felt so soulless and compressed. I hate to say it, but listening to Take Care and Sideline Story back to back and it's hard not to feel embarrassed for Cole. His shyt doesn't even sound professional by that standard. I'm not talking rap/lyric wise, I'm talking music wise.
Cole needs to hook up with Just Blaze or somebody, anybody who can give him some good drums to rap over. But I fear he's too arrogant to realize he needs help
I loved the mixtapes, and to me FNL was like the culmination of everything - the production, the dope rhymes, etc. It was a beautiful, classic mixtape, and my hype for the album couldn't be contained
...then the album came out and just sounded...empty. Lyrically it wasn't much, the content seemed old, and the beats...what happened? Everything felt so soulless and compressed. I hate to say it, but listening to Take Care and Sideline Story back to back and it's hard not to feel embarrassed for Cole. His shyt doesn't even sound professional by that standard. I'm not talking rap/lyric wise, I'm talking music wise.
Cole needs to hook up with Just Blaze or somebody, anybody who can give him some good drums to rap over. But I fear he's too arrogant to realize he needs help
he really has the potential to do some damage but he's got some hoe'ish tendencies.
we've been hearing about how hard he's worked, not gettin a fair shake at life, always bytchin about somethin...
this fakkit went to college when lots of people would die for that chance, bytches about it, has talent as an mc and producer, still bytches, made it to jay and is living his dream.
someone needs to executive produce his album, content, themes (ahem, his whole life) etc for his next album.
he is his worst enemy.
we've been hearing about how hard he's worked, not gettin a fair shake at life, always bytchin about somethin...
this fakkit went to college when lots of people would die for that chance, bytches about it, has talent as an mc and producer, still bytches, made it to jay and is living his dream.
someone needs to executive produce his album, content, themes (ahem, his whole life) etc for his next album.
he is his worst enemy.
whoooooah @ better than Drakes album... which one nikka? Cuz Im not a fan of that super RnB crooning shyt Drizzy be doing but uhhh Take Care had some bangers on there nd Sideline Story was kinda boring
Really, you have never really listen to Cole have you?
...Whatever, group think rules the world...
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I'll agree Sideline Story wasn't seeing his tapes, but pretty much every artist in his class had the same problem. Take Care wasn't seeing So Far Gone, Rolling Papers was seeing Wiz's tapes, Finally Famous wasn't seeing Big Sean's tapes. I'm holding off on K.R.I.T's debut so maybe you guys could let me know if it's seeing his tapes. Cole had a solid debut and did numbers. Nothing to be dissapointed about imo.