It's Over.....WB to send their entire 2021 movie slate to HBO Max same day as theaters

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Should have made his dialogue easier to hear instead of having people like

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trying to make out the key plot points then :skip:

Seriously though - the level of pretentiousness it takes to insist people risk their health to go see your movie in the middle of a pandemic is just :gucci:

Can't have plot holes if you can't hear the dialogue

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That’s not sure how that has anything to do with what I’m talking about? I don’t care about AMC or any theater.

Netflix can say Queens Gambit had 60 million eyeballs after two minutes of views and get no pushback because they produce it themselves. What they get out of it even if it fail and gets one season is something else.

If an investment firm gives you 40 million for a Bond film they want a ROI higher than 40 million.

These studios won’t be able to hide their viewing numbers like Netflix does.

First you need to ask yourself, why do you give a damn? As a consumer we really don’t care about numbers that the business has as long as we get the product we asked for. Do we give a damn if we are asked for the same thing when it comes to McDonald’s burgers versus Burger King whoppers? No we don’t give a fukk.

but if you’re thinking from a business perspective think about this, if you have your own platform to stream your own movies then you’re spending less on having to pay for a middleman to display your movie in a building for people to come see that scallops you from your own ticket prices because some of that goes towards the concessions and towards paying the staff of the building that you don’t own nor get any revenue for it. So in actuality they don’t get all of that money. Whereas on their own platform they get all that money hand over fist. And it’s accessible to everyone regardless if they’re there for two minutes or an hour it doesn’t matter if they’ve made their quota. And for us why do we really care in the last 15 years that Netflix has been available has anybody really cared about the viewership of anything that they’ve put out?

No, it takes it completely out of the equation. there’s no reason to even put any focus on it if you’re a simple consumer looking to see a movie. The only time people want to do this is when they want to fight over which movie is better versus what was box office and what wasn’t. But those are not the only qualities of a movie nor is it the only way to get revenue for a movie. Times are changing, this is part of the changing of the times.

If you look at the stock prices and how the stock prices are going up for Netflix or Roku versus a theater stock like AMC you’ll see times are changing. That was my point from before, there is a demand for this in today’s time. What I see to be a “potential” new fad “if” this works out, is that in the future people will create theaters in their homes instead of having it in brick and mortar buildings.
 
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b*stards ain't put it on the firestick in Europe yet. Just sideloaded it and got my homeboy password. Im ready to feast:blessed:
 

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First you need to ask yourself, why do you give a damn? As a consumer we really don’t care about numbers that the business has as long as we get the product we asked for. Do we give a damn if we are asked for the same thing when it comes to McDonald’s burgers versus Burger King whoppers? No we don’t give a fukk.

What are you even talking about of course people care?!!

You think people begging to bring the McRib back don't care about why it was taking away? If a product doesn't sell well, it's gone so yeah we do care.

I want Superman comics so I care if it's a top selling book or near cancellation. He guys read Superman! It's good.

#BRING BACK DAREDEVIL #SAVEAGENTSOFSHIELD

Numbers matter. What even is this argument?



but if you’re thinking from a business perspective think about this, if you have your own platform to stream your own movies then you’re spending less on having to pay for a middleman to display your movie in a building for people to come see that scallops you from your own ticket prices because some of that goes towards the concessions and towards paying the staff of the building that you don’t own nor get any revenue for it. So in actuality they don’t get all of that money. Whereas on their own platform they get all that money hand over fist. And it’s accessible to everyone regardless if they’re there for two minutes or an hour it doesn’t matter if they’ve made their quota. And for us why do we really care in the last 15 years that Netflix has been available has anybody really cared about the viewership of anything that they’ve put out?

Yeah. That's why people hate when popular shows get cancelled. Ducktales, AVATAR The Last Airbender, DD, Jessica Jones.

Everything else I agree with. The problem is that the cinema's built that kinds of movies you are so happy to consume. Without them that's going to change. It's really simple BATMAN 89 makes 200 million in 89 makes the character worthy of Nolan risking 200 milion production in 2005.

So how does a 15.00 subscription justify a 300 million dollar Avengers 6?Maybe 30 dollar subsciption?Maybe 45? Maybe


No, it takes it completely out of the equation. there’s no reason to even put any focus on it if you’re a simple consumer looking to see a movie. The only time people want to do this is when they want to fight over which movie is better versus what was box office and what wasn’t. But those are not the only qualities of a movie nor is it the only way to get revenue for a movie. Times are changing, this is part of the changing of the times.

This makes no sense. Of course people care. If you want musicals to be made. Musicals have make money and have demand.

If you look at the stock prices and how the stock prices are going up for Netflix or Roku versus a theater stock like AMC you’ll see times are changing. That was my point from before, there is a demand for this in today’s time. What I see to be a “potential” new fad “if” this works out, is that in the future people will create theaters in their homes instead of having it in brick and mortar buildings.

I agree with this. Like i said. Be careful what you wish for. When people wanted carte blache cable subs and didn't get it. Netflix came along with 8.99 streaming. But now we have 23 different streaming services and still growing.

Thinking studios will keep pushing out cinema era style movies without cinemas is a hard gamble to make.

The kinds of radio shows gave way to television shows. They didn’t just move them over exactly.

Streaming music isn’t sold or packaged the same as CDs.
 
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Personally, major cinema chains being killed by this wouldn't really upset me.

I love the cinema experience, and I don't think it will ever die but it will move to a more niche corner, and I think independent, art house and more boutique cinemas will thrive.

I mostly spent my time in local independent cinemas because I'm mostly not into major studio tent pole releases. Not getting to see something like Wonder Woman in the cinema doesn't effect me. I know I'm in the minority with that but that's just my taste.

I think the rise of the mega budget blockbuster, IP and cinemtic universes has really hurt American cinema. It's provided less options, encouraged less innovative filmmaking and effectively killed the mid tier budget film. It's a sad state of affairs when directors like Scorsese and Fincher have to go to Netflix and Apple to get their films funded. So the traditional studios pivoting to streaming doesn't really matter to me when so many of my favorite filmmakers have been forced go to streaming companies anyway.

And who knows if a Warner goes full time streaming then it might make more business sense to start making more mid budget stuff and also not focus everything on them opening weekend box office numbers.
 

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Personally, major cinema chains being killed by this wouldn't really upset me.

I love the cinema experience, and I don't think it will ever die but it will move to a more niche corner, and I think independent, art house and more boutique cinemas will thrive.

I mostly spent my time in local independent cinemas because I'm mostly not into major studio tent pole releases. Not getting to see something like Wonder Woman in the cinema doesn't effect me. I know I'm in the minority with that but that's just my taste.
I said in another thread theaters might change their building style because of Corona.

Having a choice of indoor/outdoor drive-in might be the future

Instead of popcorn, nachos, etc they might just team up with restaurant voucher coupons to bring in food
 

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Quite simple.

I don't believe the movie theater business is going to die. No way no how.

Not to mention since the Paramount Consent Decree was knocked down, there's a chance that a studio will buy them.

Or just vulnerable enough to be bought by someone.

Stock is less than $4, low risk/high reward

Like I said now I wait.
I think the studios might be more looking into how to cut out the middle man and go direct to consumer. Universal has Comcast which has Peacock. Warner has AT&T which has HBO Max. Disney has Disney+. Paramount has CBSViacom who has Paramount+.
 
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