It's Over.....WB to send their entire 2021 movie slate to HBO Max same day as theaters

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

The "real" HBO is back. I remember back in the day they used to have a new movie like every weekend and it was new to us because we didn't go see every movie in theater.

HBO is bringing back the "world premiere" to your living room. 4K/HDR/DOLBY

 

[Da Rhythm Rebel]

AMC was sounding like it was gonna go under. They have like $11 billion in total debt and $600ish million in cash on-hand. Current liabilities (due in the next 360 days) are $1.5 billion. The free cash flow burns like $385 million a quarter.

They will have to start dismantling their business by selling assets to pay that debt or finance more debt which makes matters worse.

What could you have possibly seen to make you want to buy their stock? Looking at the books it's a disaster and they have about 2 quarters of cash left before they'll be forced to file for bankruptcy protection or worse.

Quite simple.

I don't believe the movie theater business is going to die. No way no how.

Not to mention since the Paramount Consent Decree was knocked down, there's a chance that a studio will buy them.

Or just vulnerable enough to be bought by someone.

Stock is less than $4, low risk/high reward

Like I said now I wait.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

You buy AT&T cable/internet you get HBO MAX for "free"

You buy an AT&T phone plan and you get HBO MAX for "free"

Nothing is actually free... AT&T is doin boss moves lol.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

They need to make about 600 million to be in the black. they don’t think they’re going to get that many subs this month to see it. shyt maybe they will but they don’t think so

breh when they say a movie is "losing money" it's not factoring in the other parts of AT&T as a whole. A movie can "lose money" but still be beneficial to the brand overall as more people switch phone service/ISP etc.

 

[Da Rhythm Rebel]

There’s still a chance I have some holdings in amc just in case they get bought
But it’s also 1 month away from bankruptcy
So I have a put just in case
Winning today

Disney Investor Day is December 10th.

We may learn a bit more about their theatrical plans for next year.

We wait.

 

[Auger]

Well after 2 years or after all the movies that are already in production or pre-production are finally released, the nature of big budget blockbusters will change significantly.

Either these streaming gatekeepers raise their subscription prices to make up for the lost international box office revenues, or they really scale down the budget, scope, and talent of their tentpole releases to actually turn a profit.

Or they'll be creative with their product placement in bigger budget projects to outright inserting advertisements in their bigger movies.

 

[Json]

Either these streaming gatekeepers raise their subscription prices to make up for the lost international box office revenues, or really scale down the budget, scope, and talent of their tentpole releases to actually turn a profit.

Or they'll be creative with their product placement in bigger budget projects to outright inserting advertisements in their bigger movies.

Yeah all the people in here talking about the end of cinema.

The cinema model built Batman 89, JP, Avengers, etc.

Fans will get to eat off stuff already in production or ready to go but these financiers aren’t going to be handing over co-financing agreements to studios hiding their viewerships or not likely to recoup their investments


Be careful what you wish for. You have no idea what types of movies the streaming model will create. Netflix is in the tv series and losing money model.

 

[Tasha And]

I'm skeptical on this model being a positive for movie fans in the long term, particularly when it comes to the viability of big budget blockbuster films. The mid budget blockbuster has already been on life support, and this kind of model will probably make it likely that non-comic book big budget projects in the $150-300m range will become rare. Why spend 200m on a 90 minute film that won't have a shot at a huge box office when you can spend that same money on a 10 episode tv show that you can release weekly?

HBO Max was not built at this price point to support this model. It's not sustainable. So making movies as we know it has to change, or their price point has to change. It's not going to happen at this minute because they are already bleeding, so they'll want to entice subscribers in the meantime to put a bandaid on the damage. But long term? I only see two options from a studio like them, or anyone else trying to emulate this model.

Raise prices or cut spending.

That, imo means either $30 HBO Max Subscriptions in 2022 and or getting out of the 150-300m blockbuster game, save for only their most trusted IPs and sequels.

Something like Blade Runner 2049 and Dune are probably over with in this model, at least being greenlit as films rather than tv shows, unless they raise their subscription prices to rival that of a cheap cable package, which is what they have probably wanted all along.

 

[daemonova]

Well after 2 years or after all the movies that are already in production or pre-production are finally released, the nature of big budget blockbusters will change significantly.

Either these streaming gatekeepers raise their subscription prices to make up for the lost international box office revenues, or really scale down the budget, scope, and talent of their tentpole releases to actually turn a profit.

Or they'll be creative with their product placement in bigger budget projects to outright inserting advertisements in their bigger movies.

There is no scaling down talent, if there is no more money in blockbusters, then talent will have to take cheaper deals

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Well I guess it’s cool HBO doing it first and I’m glad it’s them.

Cuz if anyone else did this...... there would be so man thread trolling saying it’s an L

 

[Auger]

There is no scaling down talent, if there is no more money in blockbusters, then talent will have to take cheaper deals

In a free market accomplished talent will still seek fair wages for their work, or the industry (as we've come to know it) will kind of crash. Most top actors/actresses are compensated for their work on the backend. How will that work in a post-cinema world?

What about those not in front of the camera?

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

ALL movies released in 4K and HDR.

 

[Uno]

Why haven't I heard anything about the mortal kombat movie?

 

[PoorAndDangerous]

I don't know how da fuq they gonna make this work for DUNE. They seem like they have to move the release up because I expect/hope by October (1st was the latest date they gave) most theaters that didn't close down completely will be operative anyway. It's gonna be tougher to get sequels. And HBOmax got no 4K...

The new movie releases will be 4k. Wonder Woman is confirmed 4k hdr on HBO max

 

[Json]

There is no scaling down talent, if there is no more money in blockbusters, then talent will have to take cheaper deals

Not necessarily.

If none of the studios stop making the kinds of movies Tom Cruise still makes then they will just move on.

Easier to make 4 Hemsworth Extraction over 3 years films than a 200 dollar MI:10