Its crazy how there's only 1 universally accepted classic album from a female rapper,

[Ron Fox]

As for the title of this thread, people (fans and other rappers) say they don't consider Lauryn a "rapper".

This is ridiculous. So she wasn't a rapper on the Fugees albums ?

 

[Taadow]

So she wasn't a rapper on the Fugees albums ?

Don't ask me - this isn't my thought...this is what other people (even other rappers) say.
It just is what it is.

 

[Ron Fox]

Don't ask me - this isn't my thought...this is what other people (even other rappers) say.
It just is what it is.

U avoiding answering the question tells me you got stumped and just dont wanna admit that u made a false statement.


U obviously never heard that 1st Fugees lp.

This is Lauryns most recent single.

Is this R&B or is this rapping?

 

[Taadow]

U avoiding answering the question tells me you got stumped and just dont wanna admit that u made a false statement.

But I didn't, though.
My statement was that people are on record saying they don't consider her a "rapper". That's not false.
I even put up a clip to support that.

U obviously never heard that 1st Fugees lp.

Nope. I heard "Nappy Headz", but that's it.
...most people didn't hear that 1st Fugees LP, though. Here's Pras talkin' about it.

 

[CSquare43]

Classic album IMO:

Mystic - Cuts for Luck & Scars for Freedom

 

[Ron Fox]

But I didn't, though.
My statement was that people are on record saying they don't consider her a "rapper". That's not false.
I even put up a clip to support that.

You only posted 1 video of Trina and she calls Lauryn a rap superstar and Vlad said she was #1

The video u posted has 2 people calling her a rapper.

You destroyed your own argument with that clip

U never heard the 1st Fugees album no did watch the video u posted


Also , I peeped how you avoided answering wethere her most recent single is R&B or hip-hop

Can u answer this simple question.


Is this R&B or is this rapping?
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[smokeurobinson]

You only posted 1 video of Trina and she calls Lauryn a rap superstar and Vlad said she was #1

The video u posted has 2 people calling her a rapper.

You destroyed your own argument with that clip

U never heard the 1st Fugees album no did watch the video u posted


Also , I peeped how you avoided answering wethere her most recent single is R&B or hip-hop

Can u answer this simple question.


Is this R&B or is this rapping?
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The Ether in this one post.

 

[JustCKing]

I don't know why Nas says a lot of what he says.



No.



Here's the rub - are we talmbat "Hip-Hop", or "Rap"?

Miseducation is barely a rap album. I cannot in good conscience group it in with albums where females was there just to spit.

As for the title of this thread, people (fans and other rappers) say they don't consider Lauryn a "rapper".

Nas referred to what she was doing on the album as rapping, which she does on more than half the songs. He was in fact reviewing the album for a Hip Hop magazine in celebration of a 15 year anniversary of the album. It's the same issue that gave it a classic rating as a Hip Hop album.

If you aren't going to read the article, then why continue replying. I had no issue listening to Trina's entire interview on Lauryn and I never tried to downplay her stance like you are doing with Nas's on Lauryn's album.

Miseducation is a rap album. This isn't Mary J. Blige's The Breatkthrough where she had two rap verses on a 17 track album.

Fans and rappers are on record saying they consider Lauryn a rapper. You have Kool Moe Dee who had her ranked highly. The Source ranked her highly when they did their Top 50 lyricists.

 

[JustCKing]

I'm making the point that although hip hop has always been expansive, obviously there has to be some lines in the sand. Garth Brooks ain't hip hop.

I'm not that familiar with the album...never liked her or the Fugees. Can someone give us a breakdown of how many songs had rapping? How many were straight singing? And how many were straight rapping?

I'd rather every album sounded like The Infamous or Hell on Earth.

This is a deflection from the issue at hand. So because some people once didn't (and probably still don't) consider hip hop music, everything is hip hop?

Who said Garth Brooks was Hip Hop?

Why are you even responding this if you've:

1) Never heard the album

2) never liked her


I never said everything is Hip Hop, but if you're unfamiliar with what's being discussed (as you've admitted), you won't get the context.

 

[smokeurobinson]

Nas referred to what she was doing on the album as rapping, which she does on more than half the songs. He was in fact reviewing the album for a Hip Hop magazine in celebration of a 15 year anniversary of the album. It's the same issue that gave it a classic rating as a Hip Hop album.

If you aren't going to read the article, then why continue replying. I had no issue listening to Trina's entire interview on Lauryn and I never tried to downplay her stance like you are doing with Nas's on Lauryn's album.

Miseducation is a rap album. This isn't Mary J. Blige's The Breatkthrough where she had two rap verses on a 17 track album.

Fans and rappers are on record saying they consider Lauryn a rapper. You have Kool Moe Dee who had her ranked highly. The Source ranked her highly when they did their Top 50 lyricists.

Its one thing to debate what category the 1st album falls under but to say Lauryn isn't a rapper.


This is clearly a case of ' well I don't like the poster so I'm gonna disagree with everything he say even if i'm wrong'

 

[mobbinfms]

Who said Garth Brooks was Hip Hop?

Why are you even responding this if you've:

1) Never heard the album

2) never liked her

I've heard the album.
Whether I like her or the album has no bearing on whether the album is hip hop or r&b.

I never said everything is Hip Hop, but if you're unfamiliar with what's being discussed (as you've admitted), you won't get the context.

I've heard the album though. Why would I need to be an expert on the album to determine whether she's rapping or singing on a song?
How many of the songs are straight up rap songs?
You said it's more than half?
How much more?
List them.

 

[JustCKing]

I've heard the album.
Whether I like her or the album has no bearing on whether the album is hip hop or r&b.

I've heard the album though. Why would I need to be an expert on the album to determine whether she's rapping or singing on a song?
How many of the songs are straight up rap songs?
You said it's more than half?
How much more?
List them.

I'm not that familiar with the album...never liked her or the Fugees. Can someone give us a breakdown of how many songs had rapping? How many were straight singing? And how many were straight rapping?

^^^ Your words. If your aren't that familiar with the album, never liked her or the Fugees, why are you in here asking for a breakdown of how many songs had rapping/singing? Your opinion on the subject isn't credible if you admittedly aren't even familiar with the subject.

 

[mobbinfms]

If your aren't that familiar with the album, never liked her or the Fugees, why are you in here asking for a breakdown of how many songs had rapping/singing?

I'm asking because I want to know
Because we are debating whether this is a hip hop album or an r&b album.
Wouldn't this be important information?

Your opinion on the subject isn't credible if you admittedly aren't even familiar with the subject.

How many songs have rapping isn't a matter of opinion
If you don't want to give the breakdown...just say so.

 

[JustCKing]

I'm asking because I want to know
Because we are debating whether this is a hip hop album or an r&b album.
Wouldn't this be important information?

How many songs have rapping isn't a matter of opinion
If you don't want to give the breakdown...just say so.

Number of songs on album: 13 excluding the intro

Number of songs with with singing and rapping: Five ("Doo Wop" *2 rap verses with a sang hook and bridge*, "Lost Ones" *2 verses with a sang hook and bridge*, "Superstar" *1 rap verse, sang hook and two sang verses*, "Everything Is Everything" *1 rap verse*, "Forgive Them Father" *1 rap verse*)

Number of songs where she just spits: One

Number of songs where she just sings: Seven

 

[mobbinfms]

Number of songs on album: 13 excluding the intro

Number of songs with with singing and rapping: Five ("Doo Wop" *2 rap verses with a sang hook and bridge*, "Lost Ones" *2 verses with a sang hook and bridge*, "Superstar" *1 rap verse, sang hook and two sang verses*, "Everything Is Everything" *1 rap verse*, "Forgive Them Father" *1 rap verse*)

Number of songs where she just spits: One

Number of songs where she just sings: Seven

Doo Wop and Lost Ones I would consider straight up hip hop songs. So that makes three.
If there's a sung verse is my line in the sand.
That breakdown is why I've always thought of the album as a "hybrid".