It's crazy how closely Kendrick & Drake is mirroring Jay-Z & Nas

[ManBearPig]

I think Drake is aiming for billionaire status and I think Papi just might make it....

Drake and LeBron are the new Dr.Dre and Michael Jordan Financial wise

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Then who's Kendrick?

He's weaker version of talib kweli,with 10 x's the push so they can pretend the world loves him.

 

[Jen The Prude]

I guess that means soon OVO's gonna sign their Kanye West and revitalize Drake's career. Wouldn't be for a while though, since Drake's still got plenty of steam. But I think if anything, Views From The 6 could be Drake's Blueprint. Especially since he's been claiming Toronto heavy as of late.

Drake was always about the 6 though and his crew. He has never wavered.

 

[ManBearPig]

He's weaker version of talib kweli,with 10 x's the push so they can pretend the world loves him.

Talib kweli?

 

[Jen The Prude]

Not 50 but kanye.
1. Sales is only one metric, relatively speaking he's selling in the same range as Kanye was spelling compared to the average rapper or sales of the top 10 selling artists. He's a lot more streamed, now you might say that no one streamed back then well no one buys records today.

2. Stillmatic has like 69 on metacritic, the album Stans call a classic. Kendrick's shyt is 95 or something, Nas was not the critics favorite, his Stans used to say the critics "hated on him", were you not around back then?

3. Kendrick is winning Grammys, headlining pretty big tours, doing big stages at festivals, he's loved across the board, the hipsters love him, the reviewers, and he's selling more than some of the biggest popstars like Rihana, Lorde and all rappers not named Drake and Eminem.

What tour is he headlining? Has he ever even had a world tour or even US tour to promote his music. Stop spreading lies.

 

[ISO]

There is no one that considers that album a classic outside of Drake diehards. No one. Ive never even heard anyone label that a classic album besides stans on forums no disrespect. There has been no acclaim for take care. Just people calling it was it is, a very good project. And as you said, it has "good music" top to bottom, which is true. But not great music.

I mean it's weird breh, do publications matter or not? You just said metacritic doesn't matter. Which is an average score of all the scores of all major publications. Yet at the same time you say there are some publications that gave it C.A.

Fact is, it was recieved well, not amazingly a la a GKMC or MBDTF. It wasn't even received as well as MKL. It isn't on anyone's HH list as a classic or a premier album of the decade, the only people who label that very good album a classic are his die hards. No one else.

But I love it. I went through it the other day.

My Krazy Life isn't even remotely close to Take Care and I like that album for what it is a well produced, modern summer gangsta rap album with poor lyrics. This is why reviews can't be the tell all. I brought them back up because for somebody that doesn't care about them you sure do bring them up a lot.

I think it's great music a lot of people do. Not just Drake diehards, it doesn't matter what you've heard, I've actually never heard anyone talk about Good Kid, M.a.a.d. City. Does that mean it's not a great album? In NYC it feels like Cole is much more popular than Kendrick.

The album introduced Kendrick Lamar and The Weeknd to the mainstream, remember YOLO, has classic songs and some of the biggest singles of it's respective year, some of the albums songs still get played in the streets/clubs/parties to this day, it's cohesive, it's really that simple people connect with this album. You're overanalyzing this IMO. Using your logic there's only been like what 5-6 classics in the last 10-15 years.

 

[Jen The Prude]

J. Cole & Drake is a better comparison to Jay-Z and Nas. Drake being a hit single making machine, Cole being that conscious type rapper trying to fit in a mainstream industry with a huge following and people wishing he can live up to his potential equal to his debut... EXACTLY LIKE Nas. shyt, Nas himself pretty much cosigned to this notion and passed the baton to Cole.

J.cole and Drake are friends though and Drake seems to revel in Cole's success. However, Drake doesn't fukk with Kendrick.

Drake and Kendrick are becoming natural rivals to me.

 

[Apex]

J.cole and Drake are friends though and Drake seems to revel to Cole's success. However, Drake doesn't fukk with Kendrick.

Drake and Kendrick are becoming natural rivals to me.

They were chill until the control stuff. Drake even mentioned that on his latest mixtape.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

My Krazy Life isn't even remotely close to Take Care and I like that album for what it is a well produced, modern summer gangsta rap album with poor lyrics. This is why reviews can't be the tell all. I brought them back up because for somebody that doesn't care about them you sure do bring them up a lot.

I think it's great music a lot of people do. Not just Drake diehards, it doesn't matter what you've heard, I've actually never heard anyone talk about Good Kid, M.a.a.d. City. Does that mean it's not a great album? In NYC it feels like Cole is much more popular than Kendrick.

The album introduced Kendrick Lamar and The Weeknd to the mainstream, remember YOLO, has classic songs and some of the biggest singles of it's respective year, some of the albums songs still get played in the streets/clubs/parties to this day, it's cohesive, it's really that simple people connect with this album. You're overanalyzing this IMO. Using your logic there's only been like what 5-6 classics in the last 10-15 years.

MKL > GKMC

 

[onelastdeath]

My Krazy Life isn't even remotely close to Take Care and I like that album for what it is a well produced, modern summer gangsta rap album with poor lyrics. This is why reviews can't be the tell all. I brought them back up because for somebody that doesn't care about them you sure do bring them up a lot.

I think it's great music a lot of people do. Not just Drake diehards, it doesn't matter what you've heard, I've actually never heard anyone talk about Good Kid, M.a.a.d. City. Does that mean it's not a great album? In NYC it feels like Cole is much more popular than Kendrick.

The album started the YOLO movement, introduced Kendrick Lamar and The Weeknd to the mainstream, has classic songs and some of the biggest singles of it's respective year, some of the albums songs still get played in the streets/clubs/parties to this day, it's cohesive, it's really that simple people connect with this album.

Opinions I guess. It's all a matter of perspective it seems. reviews don't matter until they do, metacritic is useless until it's not. And this is the problem with labeling good albums as classics. Classics are universally known as classics. There's not really a debate. There are people who don't like illmatic because it's just not their taste, but STILL recognize it as a classic because it is. Its either, Drake is too polarizing And there's always going to be people on either side of the fence. Or his music just isn't that amazing.


People connect with a lot of albums though, my question is what makes this album a classic? Because of YOLO? really? Cmon. I think your confusing his impact, for his quality. His appeal and impact is apparent. His music still gets burn on the radio because he's huge,and extremely popular. That doesn't change the quality of the songs though B.

I agree to disagree. He doesn't have a classic that's universally recognized as a classic, maybe that's what I should say, he has no GKMC, illM, Blueprint, Late registration, etc. he has albums that his fans cherish and call classics,but not any undeniable classics.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Opinions I guess. It's all a matter of perspective it seems. reviews don't matter until they do, metacritic is useless until it's not. And this is the problem with labeling good albums as classics. Classics are universally known as classics. There's not really a debate. There are people who don't like illmatic because it's just not their taste, but STILL recognize it as a classic because it is. Its either, Drake is too polarizing And there's always going to be people on either side of the fence. Or his music just isn't that amazing.


People connect with a lot of albums though, my question is what makes this album a classic? Because of YOLO? really? Cmon. I think your confusing his impact, for his quality. His appeal and impact is apparent. His music still gets burn on the radio because he's huge,and extremely popular. That doesn't change the quality of the songs though B.

I agree to disagree. He doesn't have a classic that's universally recognized as a classic, maybe that's what I should say, he has no GKMC, illM, Blueprint, Late registration, etc. he has albums that his fans cherish and call classics,but not any undeniable classics.

lol this album was not universally a classic. just media pushed . if it aint a classic on the streets then it;s NOT UNIVERSALLY ACCEPTED. And no it did not dominate the streets.

 

[onelastdeath]

lol this album was not universally a classic. just media pushed . if it aint a classic on the streets then it;s NOT UNIVERSALLY ACCEPTED. And no it did not dominate the streets.

Sure it didn't. That shyt was everywhere when it dropped and in the streets heavy.

 

[GeeEffKay]

Kendrick will be so far ahead of drake once this album drops, drake can have his billboard singles and album sales while kendrick continues to make classics

 

[Abstract83]

I mean you can literally see this shyt playing out exactly how Nas and Jay-Z post-Ether did

Drake is dropping hot shyt for the clubs and party music, etc. like Jay was, putting out hit after hit, while Kendrick is getting on his pro-black militant tip like Nas did. They are like in their God's Son/Blueprint 2 era right now, although Kendrick is obviously taking some cues from Nas' "Untitled" era.

Everyone is praising Kendrick for implementing jazz and funk sounds on his new work, like Nas did when he dropped that "Bridging the Gap" joint with Olu Dara and that "Get Down" joint that sampled James Brown. Jay stans said it was boring, old sounding trash.. Nas stans said it was fresh, paying homage to the past and bringing that sound back to the mainstream.

Kendrick is even trying to be commercial, but like Nas, he doesn't know how. "i" was basically his version of Nas' "I can".

I think it's gonna play out pretty similar.. meaning, 20 years from now, we might be seeing college courses taught on GKMC or To Pimp a Butterfly, and have 20th anniversary concerts and documentaries about it, but if you ask me which one is gonna be the multi-millionaire mogul? Which one is likely to hire the other one to his own record label? It's clearly gonna be Aubrey

Can the album drop first damn lol. All these comparisons smh. Let these dudes build a catalog of longevity first.

 

[CASHAPP]

This is more than just one album.... There's been many classic debut LP's. They don't necessary equate people to Nas. Ice Cube gave us AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted... does that me he was NAS due to a certified classic album? No.

J. Cole trajectory is equal with how Nas was coming up.... People listened to The Warm Up and believed J. Cole's potential of staying on that level of greatness yet it's something that's never repeated. since then Cole, despite growing in popularity always looked as someone that never repeated that same potential just like Nas had.... it took STILLMATIC for Nas to get an 2nd chance and longevity in his career to where it is now looked as legendary. J. Cole is on that equal trajectory.

Kendrick is more equal to BIGGIE than anything else. Someone that dropped a certified classic that was a MAINSTREAM monster, someone who's just purely gifted and on the verge of repeated it again while expanding himself musically.

TDE=Junior Mafia?