It's crazy how closely Kendrick & Drake is mirroring Jay-Z & Nas

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Opinions I guess. It's all a matter of perspective it seems. reviews don't matter until they do, metacritic is useless until it's not. And this is the problem with labeling good albums as classics. Classics are universally known as classics. There's not really a debate. There are people who don't like illmatic because it's just not their taste, but STILL recognize it as a classic because it is. Its either, Drake is too polarizing And there's always going to be people on either side of the fence. Or his music just isn't that amazing.


People connect with a lot of albums though, my question is what makes this album a classic? Because of YOLO? really? Cmon. I think your confusing his impact, for his quality. His appeal and impact is apparent. His music still gets burn on the radio because he's huge,and extremely popular. That doesn't change the quality of the songs though B.

I agree to disagree. He doesn't have a classic that's universally recognized as a classic, maybe that's what I should say, he has no GKMC, illM, Blueprint, Late registration, etc. he has albums that his fans cherish and call classics,but not any undeniable classics.

Truth.

Though I think So Far Gone is widely seen as his classic project. That shyt was on another planet for awhile. People still talk about it. So I'd definitely say that that's his classic joint, if we had to refer to anything. I'm not exactly a Drake fan, but I can credit that project as damn near changing music and how cats approached albums.
 

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gkmc was not on rtd's level AT ALL
HOW OLD ARE U KIDS?

What? It's NOT about comparing albums. That's the very 1st thing I stated.... if you merely looking from it from JUST an LP perspective then NOBODY is like anyone! But if you looking from it from the actual comparison as to where their careers are. The way Kendrick blew up with BOTH the love and acclaim of the mainstream AND the underground in IMMEDIATE fashion was just like it was with Biggie.

Drake, with him coming with hit after hit after hit singles is something that's not been equated SINCE Jay-Z.

And J. Cole, having the following, potential, but not YET relived UP to that potential since his introduction to the game is just like with Nas. That's is more than obvious by the man NAS himself on the remix to Let Nas Down, or should you listen to Nas' verse on that again?
 

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J.cole and Drake are friends though and Drake seems to revel in Cole's success. However, Drake doesn't fukk with Kendrick.

Drake and Kendrick are becoming natural rivals to me.

They're ALL rivals. Actually J. Cole and Kendrick are more than close than J. Cole would ever EVER be with Drake. In fact, J. Cole long been throwing subliminals at Drake for years now.
 

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Truth.

Though I think So Far Gone is widely seen as his classic project. That shyt was on another planet for awhile. People still talk about it. So I'd definitely say that that's his classic joint, if we had to refer to anything. I'm not exactly a Drake fan, but I can credit that project as damn near changing music and how cats approached albums.
Definitely. SFG is one of my favorite projects of all time. And definitely a classic mixtape. But it's just that, a mixtape. Not all of it was oeiginwl material.

Ignant shyt
A Little Bit
Say Whats Real
Unstoppable
And Lets Call It Off

We're all originally other people's tracks. So while it's a classic mixtape that opened the door for the entire new gen, it's not a classic album.
 

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You could make that vague comparison that Drake is more popular music / club oriented / bangers and Kendrick is more of a "serious music" guy, but nah. Real talk I think both Drake and Kendrick are more creative and musically talented than Jay and Nas. Don't get it twisted, I'm NOT saying they're better rappers than Jay and Nas, but I do think they make better music.

Whatever your craft is, you're supposed to get better with age. Jay-Z's output post Black Album has been pretty mediocre. Nas's output post It Was Written was super inconsistent too. They haven't grown as artists much either, pretty much making the same music they been making for 15 years. You think any of them could make a track like ADHD? Nah. Could they make an album as fresh, cohesive and moody as GKMC? Nah.

I think after To Pimp a Butterfly come out, we're gonna see just how great Kendrick really is. He ain't simply a rapper, he's an artist.
 

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What? It's NOT about comparing albums. That's the very 1st thing I stated.... if you merely looking from it from JUST an LP perspective then NOBODY is like anyone! But if you looking from it from the actual comparison as to where their careers are. The way Kendrick blew up with BOTH the love and acclaim of the mainstream AND the underground in IMMEDIATE fashion was just like it was with Biggie.

Drake, with him coming with hit after hit after hit singles is something that's not been equated SINCE Jay-Z.

And J. Cole, having the following, potential, but not YET relived UP to that potential since his introduction to the game is just like with Nas. That's is more than obvious by the man NAS himself on the remix to Let Nas Down, or should you listen to Nas' verse on that again?
If you think kendrick's lamar's "blowing up" is anything like biggie's then you're a damn fool and you must of been a baby when rtd came out or a very lil kid
 
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Anyone got a 320 or AAC of that new drake? Been caught up and I'd appreciate a link....thanks
 

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If you think kendrick's lamar's "blowing up" is anything like biggie's then you're a damn fool and you must of been a baby when rtd came out or a very lil kid

I been part of the hip hop culture since '82. Don't use that age thing on me... especially if that's the only excuse can have instead of having an intelligent reason to disagree.

Biggie Ready to Die was looked upon as an immediate classic that was a commercial success that's adored by the underground. Just like Kendrick.... both the year prior were virtual unknowns that blew up after their mainstream debuts...and are naturally gifted unlike anyone else of that generation.
 

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I been part of the hip hop culture since '82. Don't use that age thing on me... especially if that's the only excuse can have instead of having an intelligent reason to disagree.

Biggie Ready to Die was looked upon as an immediate classic that was a commercial success that's adored by the underground. Just like Kendrick.... both the year prior were virtual unknowns that blew up after their mainstream debuts...and are naturally gifted unlike anyone else of that generation.
LMAO,kendrick did not have a year like biggie's year following the release of their debuts.
Though biggie dropped in 94',and 2pac and bone dropped in 95',biggie was clearly the face of hiphop in 95'.
That was his year. Kendrick has never dominated a year in hiphop ever. And he never will.
Kendrick didnt have singles to match
Warning
Juicy
Big poppa
One more chance remix

Kendrick wasnt featured on songs with his crew that could rival
Get money
players anthem
Total's can't u see
flava in ya ear remix
(all with unforgettable verses)


Only feature kendrick did that meant something was that control farce.
Other than that his presennce on other records has meant nothing
Biggie's artist lil kim had a better run off her first album than kendrick did.
 

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LMAO,kendrick did not have a year like biggie's year following the release of their debuts.
Though biggie dropped in 94',and 2pac and bone dropped in 95',biggie was clearly the face of hiphop in 95'.
That was his year. Kendrick has never dominated a year in hiphop ever. And he never will.
Kendrick didnt have singles to match
Warning
Juicy
Big poppa
One more chance remix

Kendrick wasnt featured on songs with his crew that could rival
Get money
players anthem
Total's can't u see
flava in ya ear remix
(all with unforgettable verses)


Only feature kendrick did that meant something was that control farce.
Other than that his presennce on other records has meant nothing
Biggie's artist lil kim had a better run off her first album than kendrick did.

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