ManBearPig
half man half bearpig
stillmatic is a classic btw.
i dont care what those reviews think there is no way in hell Thank Me Later is a superior albums albums than Stillmatic.
Stillmatic is a classic. take it how u like it.
It's crazy how closely Kendrick & Drake is mirroring Jay-Z & Nas
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stillmatic is a classic btw.
i dont care what those reviews think there is no way in hell Thank Me Later is a superior albums albums than Stillmatic.
Stillmatic is a classic. take it how u like it.
Drake being on Hov's level 
It's a dope album, only reason stans label it a classic is due to the beef and it containing one of the best diss songs of all times.
Just cause Jay dropped a real classic, Stillmatic could've been ass and stans would still call it classic due to the beef. It was the first time I saw people disrespect the word classic in hiphop.
bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
It's nothing alike at all. Kendrick does not have critical acclaim in the streets,the way nas did. Jay went at nas to make himself officially that nikka,though he was already more successful.I mean you can literally see this shyt playing out exactly how Nas and Jay-Z post-Ether did
Drake is dropping hot shyt for the clubs and party music, etc. like Jay was, putting out hit after hit, while Kendrick is getting on his pro-black militant tip like Nas did. They are like in their God's Son/Blueprint 2 era right now, although Kendrick is obviously taking some cues from Nas' "Untitled" era.
Everyone is praising Kendrick for implementing jazz and funk sounds on his new work, like Nas did when he dropped that "Bridging the Gap" joint with Olu Dara and that "Get Down" joint that sampled James Brown. Jay stans said it was boring, old sounding trash.. Nas stans said it was fresh, paying homage to the past and bringing that sound back to the mainstream.
Kendrick is even trying to be commercial, but like Nas, he doesn't know how. "i" was basically his version of Nas' "I can".
I think it's gonna play out pretty similar.. meaning, 20 years from now, we might be seeing college courses taught on GKMC or To Pimp a Butterfly, and have 20th anniversary concerts and documentaries about it, but if you ask me which one is gonna be the multi-millionaire mogul? Which one is likely to hire the other one to his own record label? It's clearly gonna be Aubrey
While drake is more successful,gets played in the black community more than kendrick and is not trying to go at kendrick for supremacy.
ManBearPig
half man half bearpig
Street nikkaz back in the 90 appreciate lyricism more. That's not really fair. But nikkaz loved that Mad Ciity track on GKMC
Overall, GKMC gave us an Illmatic in a west coast perspective
bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
Were you born in 88'?
I'm not just talking lyrical skill.
I'm saying the things he says doesnt resonate with the people the way other nikkas did back in the days cause it sounds fugazi.
As hard as he tries. He doesnt have songs that people in the hood cherish like that.
He';s not FELT like other nikkas that talked about issues in the black community before him.
Where does this wave of drake being a sick dope mc come from? Jay/Nas we're hip hop to the core and ill as fukk. Comparable as they're all popular 'rap' acts?
ISO
Pass me the rock nikka
Breh, you judge classics based off MetaCritic scores.
Acclaim plays a part but it's not the tell all factor for a classic album. Not to mention Drake is literally one or two points away from "universal acclaim" on MetaCritic on his last two albums and latest mixtape. How a project captivates the streets, replay value, movements/trends started by a project don't play a part?
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This is more than just one album.... There's been many classic debut LP's. They don't necessary equate people to Nas. Ice Cube gave us AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted... does that me he was NAS due to a certified classic album? No.
J. Cole trajectory is equal with how Nas was coming up.... People listened to The Warm Up and believed J. Cole's potential of staying on that level of greatness yet it's something that's never repeated. since then Cole, despite growing in popularity always looked as someone that never repeated that same potential just like Nas had.... it took STILLMATIC for Nas to get an 2nd chance and longevity in his career to where it is now looked as legendary. J. Cole is on that equal trajectory.
Kendrick is more equal to BIGGIE than anything else. Someone that dropped a certified classic that was a MAINSTREAM monster, someone who's just purely gifted and on the verge of repeated it again while expanding himself musically.
onelastdeath
Banned
Of course it does. But he doesn't have a project that has lasting power. Universal acclaim doesn't just mean critics. Anyone can start movements/trends, which is what he's doing right now. Catchy songs that aren't great, but get stuck in yoUr head, and then replaced by other catchy songs using the same blueprint (SFTB' 0-100' Energy etc)' replay value is subjective, a classic album isn't. A classic album is a classic album.Breh, you judge classics based off MetaCritic scores.
Acclaim plays a part but it's not the tell all factor for a classic album. Not to mention Drake is literally one or two points away from "universal acclaim" on MetaCritic on his last two albums and latest mixtape. How a project captivates the streets, replay value, movements/trends started by a project don't play a part?
Like I said breh, Drake has very good albums, and classic songs for sure. But not a classic project. He'll get one though. I don't think he's peaked.
I think he'll make one when he's forced to. I think when the time comes where he's not "the guy" anymore, and everything he touches isn't hot anymore, he'll go in and make a classic album. Just doesn't seem like he puts the effort in. Vocally he's capable of most things, creatively, he has a ways to go.
Conceptually he's very very basic. A lot of people compare him to Jay, because they both have braggadocious rap songs, but people forget that Jay has shyt like Song Cry, and shyt like D'Evils. Things that are just conceptually ahead.
95% of Drakes shyt is surface music. Nothing conceptually amazing, nothing that really makes you think. Drakes music is amazing production, smooth vocals, and anthems. Really good, but not enough to be considered a great artist. The last song he had that was conceptually ahead was maybe The Ride, and that wasn't even his song. Like i said, he's a great vocalist, and arguably the most vocally gifted rapper to ever do it. Just in the amount of tones he can use his voice in. But artistically he's behind.
And I think,his best will come when he actually has to draw people to his music again, when people don't just run to it because it's Drake, and he has to put some time in. He's at that stage where people are paying money for lazy throwaways. And he's selling out shows with it. He has no reason to push the envelope as an artist right now. Why fix it if it ain't broke?
Prince had his best album when he cooled off too. Sign o' the Times isn't as known as Purple Rain or Controversy, and it didnt sell as well, but it's still his greatest work. I think there will come a time where he'll drop an album that wasn't as explosively impactful sales wise like a TC or a NWTS, but it'll be his best project by far, and the highlight in his resume.
FukyourFort
All Star
drake has no classics though...this some bullshyt
UpAndComing
Veteran
Both Drake and Kendrick would never hold a candle to Jay and Nas
Bravehearts == TDE ?
Real N Quotes
East Is In The House OMG
I mean you can literally see this shyt playing out exactly how Nas and Jay-Z post-Ether did
Drake is dropping hot shyt for the clubs and party music, etc. like Jay was, putting out hit after hit, while Kendrick is getting on his pro-black militant tip like Nas did. They are like in their God's Son/Blueprint 2 era right now, although Kendrick is obviously taking some cues from Nas' "Untitled" era.
Everyone is praising Kendrick for implementing jazz and funk sounds on his new work, like Nas did when he dropped that "Bridging the Gap" joint with Olu Dara and that "Get Down" joint that sampled James Brown. Jay stans said it was boring, old sounding trash.. Nas stans said it was fresh, paying homage to the past and bringing that sound back to the mainstream.
Kendrick is even trying to be commercial, but like Nas, he doesn't know how. "i" was basically his version of Nas' "I can".
I think it's gonna play out pretty similar.. meaning, 20 years from now, we might be seeing college courses taught on GKMC or To Pimp a Butterfly, and have 20th anniversary concerts and documentaries about it, but if you ask me which one is gonna be the multi-millionaire mogul? Which one is likely to hire the other one to his own record label? It's clearly gonna be Aubrey
Don't compare dude to Hov
I fuk with some of his joints but most of his music is for fuk boys and bytches
Hov had street joints that went hard
Drake says some of the softest shyt of all time
Awesome Wells
The Ghost of Jack Tripper
Cole is way more like Nas.