well, you lost for arguing with MeachTheMoron.
Zelda 1, Zelda 2, Link to the Past, Majoras Mask, Windwaker, Twilight Princess, and Breath of the Wild were all different in their own right from each other. only a moron would fail to see that.
It's crazy how 30+ years in, Nintendo is still widely and by far the best development House in the w
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Zelda 1, Zelda 2, Link to the Past, Majoras Mask, Windwaker, Twilight Princess, and Breath of the Wild were all different in their own right from each other. only a moron would fail to see that.
If we're expanding the scope of this argument from "Nintendo makes the same games over and over" to "Nintendo has fallen behind MS/Sony in [insert metric/capability here]", then defending Nintendo gets a lot harder. I acknowledge Sony and Microsoft are both offering way more modern/robust games than Nintendo is. Nintendo doesn't even allow us to have usernames on their consoles, for God's sake.
But the beauty of that is Nintendo doesn't even care; they stopped competing with MS/Sony in that arena in 2008 the day the Wii released. Their audience isn't just hardcore gamers that argue on internet forums: it's kids, parents, baby boomers, sorority girls. They offer games that are crazy polished, innovative (even if they're not the AAA movie-like experiences that God of War or Halo Infinite are), and fun. And a LOT of people enjoy that.
When I combine that present success with a 30 year backlog of titles that dwarfs any single developer/publisher's library (which everyone arguing me is ignoring), I reach the conclusion that OP is right: Nintendo is far and away the greatest developer in industry history.
I don’t even want to hear about a gamefreak game ever again until they get voice acting. Talking about some innovation
Work on bringing the games up to par with stuff released within the past decade and we’ll talk, and that goes for a number of nintendo titles.
So high bidget movie acting and production is needed for an innovatove game nowadays?
Fair enough. I think is my first argument with him.
Right. I feel like the Sony/MS Stans in here keep moving the goalpost.So high bidget movie acting and production is needed for an innovatove game nowadays?
Imma neg myself and peace out for even reading this thread full of hate and faulty logic. Nintendo deserves valid criticisms for sure in certain respects but you nikka nerds need to be respectful when discussing the goat. 
shyt, Donkey Kong is 42, Mario is 38, and Zelda is 36. not many franchises have been able to stay relevant pushing 4 decades of age.
There are very few new franchises and their games a very iterative. Mario galaxy isn’t doing anything plenty
These are weak counterarguments. You argued Nintendo makes the same games over and over. I provided example of games on the Switch that either massively changed core mechanics of that respective franchise, or were new franchises all together. You're trolling because you know I'm right. Especially if we actually talk about innovations across "all time" as OP argued in the beginning of the thread.
of other mario games didnt do before it,
Only one you kinda have a point with is zelda. But that’s still not a huge departure from the usual formula. Lots of recent games have opened up a little lately. But y’all wouldn’t say microsoft was so “innovative” for adding some open world stuff to Gears of War
Halo, Gears, And Forza have gone through more significant changes than the aforementioned nintendo games.
For some reason people just like to pretend they have not.
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blathering blatherskite!
Yeah, i agree
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blathering blatherskite!
So high bidget movie acting and production is needed for an innovatove game nowadays?
Is fire emblem a high budget movie game because it has voice acting?
Come on Meach I know you don't believe that
You say Zelda went open world.Come on Meach I know you don't believe that
Halo did too. But that don’t count.
You say Mario went “open world”
Gears did too, But that don’t count.
Forza horizon is a whole new genre of game just with the forza name and tech.
But that don’t exist tho.
Lots of discourse around this stuff is driven by hype and narratives, not reality. I like Nintendo games. But i know what i’m gonna get from a Mario game, just like any other long time running franchise.
Zelda's open world jump also came with a slew of gameplay changes and a new engine that was physics sandbox. That was an olympic long jump; Gears 5 and Halo Infinite were hops compared to BOTW's changse. Even Cappy's function in Mario Odyssey was more of a change than the games you listed. Additionally, you're ignoring something wild like Labo that turned the Switch into like 15 other devices. This is all while arguing in this tight, Switch-only argument you cherry picked.
I like Gears and Halo too (Forza's not my kind of game. Beautiful though). But they're more formulaic than Nintendo's top franchises, easily.
Halo had a new engine and new gameplay shyt and it’s been a “physics sandbox” for 2 decades.
But that don’t matter cause zelda got a stamina bar
Stop. Mario been putting on new hats for literally decades. Ain’t nothing you can tell me to convince me that wings on a mario hat is some great new design feature.
You only see what you want to see
Dude have you played Mario Odyssey? You know the hat isn't just cosmetic right?Halo had a new engine and new gameplay shyt and it’s been a “physics sandbox” for 2 decades.
But that don’t matter cause zelda got a stamina bar
Stop. Mario been putting on new hats for literally decades. Ain’t nothing you can tell me to convince me that wings on a mario hat is some great new design feature.
You only see what you want to see