It was written > illmatic

IWW>Illmatic

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To be honest as much as I like It Was Written (and I do prefer it to Illmatic), it seems to me to be a less good attempt at doing the mafia thing compared to say, AZ's Doe or Die and Jay-Z's Reasonable Doubt, which hit that mafia aesthetic better than It Was Written gets. It just seems a little bit out of character for Nas I suppose.
 

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To be honest as much as I like It Was Written (and I do prefer it to Illmatic), it seems to me to be a less good attempt at doing the mafia thing compared to say, AZ's Doe or Die and Jay-Z's Reasonable Doubt, which hit that mafia aesthetic better than It Was Written gets. It just seems a little bit out of character for Nas I suppose.

That's because it wasn't a fully mafioso album like the other ones. Tracks like If Ruled the World, Black Girl Lost, and I gave you Power weren't mafioso.
 

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I just started going through old acclaimed projects to see what my system is saying about past projects.

It's true. :ohhh:

My rating system went like this.

Nas - It Was Written - 90.38% Classic
Nas - Illmatic - 88.89 Classic


But Lost Tapes graded better than both of them if we're counting that project @ 95.45%
 
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To be honest as much as I like It Was Written (and I do prefer it to Illmatic), it seems to me to be a less good attempt at doing the mafia thing compared to say, AZ's Doe or Die and Jay-Z's Reasonable Doubt, which hit that mafia aesthetic better than It Was Written gets. It just seems a little bit out of character for Nas I suppose.
It’s not a mafioso album. That wasn’t its goal.
 

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Illmatic better for me but do agree on from a technical standpoint Nas is ever so slightly better on IWW. Illmatic subject matter has more depth, it’s more introspective, I prefer the production but as others said on IWW Nas flow becomes even smoother, rhyme schemes more consistently complex, punchlines and metaphors better and Nas better develops his tones in his voice and presence on the mic.

but that’s not knocking Illmatic in any way. It’s comparing near perfect rhyming on both IMO, Nas just grew as an MC

although Memory Lane 2nd verse > ***
 

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This is absurd

IWW has a few great songs (The Message, I Gave You Power, Affirmative Action, Take It In Blood) and the rest of the album is a cut below, in “solid but not great” territory.

The worst song on Illmatic (whatever you think that is) is at least as good as the best on IWW

This revisionism about IWW needs to stop. It was considered a major let down when it dropped. That’s why the entire narrative before I Am dropped was about whether Nas could regain his old form and redeem himself.
 

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This is absurd

IWW has a few great songs (The Message, I Gave You Power, Affirmative Action, Take It In Blood) and the rest of the album is a cut below, in “solid but not great” territory.

The worst song on Illmatic (whatever you think that is) is at least as good as the best on IWW

This revisionism about IWW needs to stop. It was considered a major let down when it dropped. That’s why the entire narrative before I Am dropped was about whether Nas could regain his old form and redeem himself.

alot of albums were considered disappointments when they first dropped by critics

the streets of NYC was bumping IWW more than Illmatic tbh
 

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alot of albums were considered disappointments when they first dropped by critics

the streets of NYC was bumping IWW more than Illmatic tbh

The streets of NYC also bumped Puffy and Mase more than Rakim or Kool G Rap or KRS or Kane
 
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I don’t think anyone that recognized and appreciated Illmatic as the masterpiece that it was at the time (not 10 years later) thought It Was Written was better.


This.

I came in here to say people need to cut the chit already and just admit they like IWW more because they actually remember it in real-time.

:mjlol:
 

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Songs like “The Set Up,” “Shootouts,” and “Live Nicca Rap” are nice, decent songs … but nothing special (I think “Live Nicca Rap” is by far the least impressive Nas/Mobb Deep collaboration from the 90s)

You guys really think those songs are equal to or (I can’t believe I’m saying this) better than songs like “It Ain’t Hard To Tell,” “Memory Lane,” “Life’s a bytch” etc.?

Really?


:dahell:

Have you guys really thought this through, even a little bit?
 

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There is a reason why Nas made an album called “Stillmatic” rather than one called “It Is Still Written”

:stopitslime:
 
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The streets of NYC also bumped Puffy and Mase more than Rakim or Kool G Rap or KRS or Kane

well I was too young to remember what were bumping in the 80s but you're right about Puffy and Mase

just pointing out that there were different views between hip hop fans and music critics about IWW
 
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