Soto signed for 765/15 (51M a year), Yankees offered 760/16 (47.5M a year)
That year extra for lower money is a big difference in the long run. Damn near 20M difference in the first 5 years
Then looks like Soto can get a 4M pay bump after his 5th year
lol fukk Soto . Let’s put the money to good use on multiple players.
No way should he be making more than Judge . It didn’t sit right with me honestlyI did want him back tho but yea man this ain’t your team dawg. You not Judge/
I was responding specifically to Judge's playoff choking history and specifically relating that to A-Rod's, both of whom had MVPs under their belts but didn't really show up in the playoffs.The mid 2000’s Yankees had Jeter, Damon, Bernie, Jorge, Giambi, Matsui, Cano, & Sheffield around Rodriguez. Who else in this lineup can you say scares anyone? Outside of Judge, Stanton, and Jazz, nobody else on the roster had even a .720 ops while Volpe and Cabrera had the best averages last year who are still on the team at .243 and .247 and wells is the only other guy to have an OBP of even .310 last year. How is judge gonna go on a 2009 A-Rod type playoff run when this offense won’t be good enough to even get close to October baseball?
Now 2024 feels worse than 2023 for the same reason that the ravens 2023 afc title game appearance saved John Harbaugh’s job and doomed the next few years
Post 2002 Barry Bonds, getting walked 200+ times a year because nobody in front of or behind him scares pitchers enough to challenge him. 45 homers every year but just 90 RBI’s. 2022 comes to mind where from July onward the rest of the team hit to a .223/.292/.360 triple slash. Judge got walked 58 times in his last 57 games that year. He’ll be lucky to see 5-6 pitches in the zone on a whole game now.
My point is that there’s no shot at redemption now. This lineup is gonna likely be 2003-10 Cleveland cavaliers supporting cast levels of bad now in a sport where no single guy can carry a team to the playoffs. It’ll be like 2003-07 Barry Bonds. Empty numbers on an irrelevant team the rest of his career.
Ya talking about tanking because of one fukking player
Meanwhile we wanna add Santander who needed 44/102 just to get an OPS barely over .800.The mid 2000’s Yankees had Jeter, Damon, Bernie, Jorge, Giambi, Matsui, Cano, & Sheffield around Rodriguez. Who else in this lineup can you say scares anyone? Outside of Judge, Stanton, and Jazz, nobody else on the roster had even a .720 ops while Volpe and Cabrera had the best averages last year who are still on the team at .243 and .247 and wells is the only other guy to have an OBP of even .310 last year. How is judge gonna go on a 2009 A-Rod type playoff run when this offense won’t be good enough to even get close to October baseball?
Now 2024 feels worse than 2023 for the same reason that the ravens 2023 afc title game appearance saved John Harbaugh’s job and doomed the next few years
This lineup, put this way, is really underwhelming, to say the least. But if losing Soto is what finally allows Hal to go all-in and spend, that could be the silver lining to this. Just no Ellsbury deals.
An out of nowhere hot streak at the end of the year got them to 82-80. The 2023 squad’s season was over in mid June. They spent most of the year in last place and well below the .500 mark. The 2022 squad was 53-52 over their last 105 games including the playoffs. The moves they could’ve made if they managed to keep Soto could’ve pushed them over the top and kept them as contenders. Now there’s no move to make even worth considering for the long or short term future. The 2025 season is a wasted year because the rest of the roster has nobody even worth studying tape for if you’re an opposing pitcher and no series of moves they can make will make them contenders now since the rest of the free agent class has nobody who moves the needle. You need more than 1 star hitter. I’ve been saying this for months now. Look how Soto’s presence gave Judge the chance to hit with men on base. He had just 67 RBI’s in 112 games in 2018. In 102 games in 2019 he had just 55. In 2021 he had 24 doubles and 39 homers in 148 games and still didn’t crack 100 RBI’s. In 2022 he barely crossed 130 RBI’s even while hitting 62 homers. Losing Soto now will 100% make Judge a less effective player too just off it leaving him with fewer chances to make a difference. All this stuff snowballs.Ya talking about tanking because of one fukking player
This ain't the NBA bro. Ya gotta come back to reality and stop being so emotional
The Yankees before Soto went 82-80. You know who else had the same record that year? The San Diego Padres with Juan Soto.
The roster problems were still gonna be around whether he was here or not, that's why I said all they had to do was sign him to make y'all happy. Doing the minimum was gonna keep ya at the ballpark
This is all the more reason to fire Cashman. Passing on Harper, Manny, Seager, Turner, Correa, & Freeman/Olson left them desperate enough to trade lots of pitching prospects for a 1 year rental they ended up losing as opposed to a guaranteed long term deal those guys would’ve had.Michael King, Higgy
it's so convenient that somehow the money reserved for Soto was somehow our entire budget.We came up short with him (Soto)so he doesn’t always come up in big spots.
Acting like this dude is a multi champion/ MVP
We weren’t going to win with him unless we added pieces anyway
Ya talking about tanking because of one fukking player
This ain't the NBA bro. Ya gotta come back to reality and stop being so emotional
The Yankees before Soto went 82-80. You know who else had the same record that year? The San Diego Padres with Juan Soto.
The roster problems were still gonna be around whether he was here or not, that's why I said all they had to do was sign him to make y'all happy. Doing the minimum was gonna keep ya at the ballpark
