It Was Fun While It Lasted: The Official 2024 New York Yankees Off-Season Thread

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Out of his prime years. Paul was 30 when he got to the Yankees.

I don't really consider that your peak.
Plenty of guys prime lasts to the mid 30’s though. I doubt anyone expected him to be as good as he was here though. In 9 years here compared to 8 (really 6) there he drove in 447 more runs, hit 89 more homers, hit 157 more doubles, stole 19 more bases, and posted an ops 102 points higher and won a batting title. Went from a .259 hitter to a .303 and his OBP here was .377 compared to .336 with the reds.
 

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The 1990 Yankees were bad.
67-95 bad.

The Yankees Scouting Director at the time: Brian Sabean -- who would draft or sign Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera, Jorge Posada, Andy Pettitte and JT Snow.

Random: Tim Leary went 9-19 that season for the Yankees. And led the majors with 23 Wild Pitches. I don't even remember Tim Leary.

The 1991 Yankees had only one player strike out 100 times: Kevin Maas with 128. But that's only because Jesse Barfield (80 strikeouts) only played 84 games.

The 1993 Yankees were trending upward, largely in part to 3 players they acquired:

Mike Stanley in 1992, signed as a free agent.
Wade Boggs in 1993, signed as a free agent.
Paul O'Neill in 1993, traded Roberto Kelly.

All of them "out of their prime" but still had a lot left in the tank.
Sabean's here now
 

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NEW YORK -- Yankees owner Hal Steinbrenner confirmed that club officials recently met with free agent slugger Juan Soto in California, describing it as a "good meeting" that included "very honest back-and-forth dialogue" without divulging many other details.

"Our fans really enjoyed having him in New York," Steinbrenner said Wednesday in the lobby of MLB's offices where the owners meetings are being held this week. "He's definitely a significant part of why we got to the World Series. I've got ears. I know what's expected of me. So, look, it's been a priority. We wouldn't have gone out to the West Coast if it wasn't."

Steinbrenner said the Yankees' delegation included general manager Brian Cashman, manager Aaron Boone, president Randy Levine, and Omar Minaya, a special assistant to the general manager. The owner declined to share the team's pitch to Soto or if any offers were made over the couple of hours, but he said he told Soto he would establish a relationship with the star outfielder similar to the one he has with franchise cornerstones Gerrit Cole and Aaron Judge if Soto chooses to re-sign. Steinbrenner noted Soto asked about the organization's player development system.

"No idea," Steinbrenner said when asked if he was confident the team would re-sign Soto. "We'll be in the mix. I'll leave it at that."

In addition to the Yankees, Soto has met with the New York Mets, Toronto Blue Jays, Boston Red Sox and Los Angeles Dodgers over the past week. The Mets, buoyed by billionaire owner Steve Cohen's deep pockets, are widely considered as the Yankees' chief competition for Soto's services.

"I could say that about a couple other owners too," Steinbrenner said when asked about Cohen's spending power. "Or corporations, for that matter, that represent the ownership group. So, I mean, of course it's a concern."

The Yankees acquired Soto and outfielder Trent Grisham from the San Diego Padres last December for five players. They made the trade knowing that keeping Soto, then an accomplished three-time All-Star entering his age-25 season, beyond one year would require a significant investment. Soto went on to raise his price another level with an excellent 2024 campaign, partnering with Judge to create the most dangerous duo in baseball.

The 26-year-old right fielder belted a career-high 41 home runs with a .288 batting average, .989 OPS, 129 walks and an American League-leading 128 runs scored. He made his fourth All-Star team, and his 8.1 fWAR ranked fourth in the majors. He supplied the production while providing entertainment value with swagger and showmanship and helped lead the Yankees to their first World Series appearance since 2009.

Soto's looming free agency prompted the Washington Nationals to trade him in July 2022 after he declined a 15-year, $440 million offer and led to the Padres unloading him last year. Now he is expected to command a contract well over $500 million that could break records for highest present-day total value and present-day annual average value. The price the Yankees are willing to pay to sign Soto is unclear.

Last offseason, Steinbrenner said the Yankees established a "walkaway" number when negotiating with right-hander Yoshinobu Yamamoto, who wound up signing with the Dodgers. The owner said he hasn't "thought about it" in regard to Soto.

Including Soto's $31 million salary in 2024, the Yankees had approximately $80 million in free agents come off their books after carrying a $300-million-plus luxury tax payroll. Steinbrenner reiterated that spending that much money on the roster is not tenable.

"We're in a better starting position than we were a year ago. There's no doubt about that," Steinbrenner said. "Look, year after year after year after year, payrolls similar to this year and the luxury taxes they produce are not sustainable. That's the case for the vast majority of owners, maybe all of them. Year after year after year -- it doesn't mean in any given year I can't do what I want to do. I mean, we've got the ability to sign any player we want to sign."

Steinbrenner said he didn't know what the next step was in the pursuit of Soto. He said he had "no idea" if the Yankees will meet with him again. Whether the Yankees wait for Soto to make his decision before pivoting to other players remains to be seen.

"Haven't made that decision," Steinbrenner said. "But again, guys are going to start to come off the board, right? So that's a discussion that needs to be had."
 

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The Yankees flew to California to meet with Juan Soto, and none of the Yankees high profile players went along to try and woo him back.

Not Gerrit Cole.
Not Aaron Judge.
Not Giancarlo Stanton.

They didn't even try to get Yankees legends like Derek Jeter or Mariano Rivera to sweet talk him.
 

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The Yankees flew to California to meet with Juan Soto, and none of the Yankees high profile players went along to try and woo him back.

Not Gerrit Cole.
Not Aaron Judge.
Not Giancarlo Stanton.

They didn't even try to get Yankees legends like Derek Jeter or Mariano Rivera to sweet talk him.
Good.

The Yankees have a habit of smothering people with the history. Pretty sure Soto knows about 27 rings. Pretty sure he's spoken to Jeter and MAGA Mo at some point.

It comes down to money and how committed the Yankees are to spending and trying to win. Soto forever a legend in DC. Now he's just tryna see where else he can win.
 

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The Yankees flew to California to meet with Juan Soto, and none of the Yankees high profile players went along to try and woo him back.

Not Gerrit Cole.
Not Aaron Judge.
Not Giancarlo Stanton.

They didn't even try to get Yankees legends like Derek Jeter or Mariano Rivera to sweet talk him.
Good.

The Yankees have a habit of smothering people with the history. Pretty sure Soto knows about 27 rings. Pretty sure he's spoken to Jeter and MAGA Mo at some point.

It comes down to money and how committed the Yankees are to spending and trying to win. Soto forever a legend in DC. Now he's just tryna see where else he can win.
This one is on Hal. He’s gotta be the one to close the deal. The past greats aren’t the ones running the show.
 

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Good.

The Yankees have a habit of smothering people with the history. Pretty sure Soto knows about 27 rings. Pretty sure he's spoken to Jeter and MAGA Mo at some point.

It comes down to money and how committed the Yankees are to spending and trying to win. Soto forever a legend in DC. Now he's just tryna see where else he can win.

Soto wants the 💰 Hal, Cashman can say it was a good meeting but he’s goin to want this team to go all in.
 

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signed Grisham to a one-year, $5 million deal to avoid arbitration. The agreement also includes the potential for Grisham to earn an additional $250,000 in bonuses based on plate appearances, ensuring his return to the Yankees for another season.






“Honestly, it ain’t my money,” Judge said. “I really don’t care. As long as we get the best players and we get the most that we can, I’m happy with whatever. That’s never been something on my mind about who gets paid the most. Whatever we can do to get the best players, I’ll take it.”
 
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This would be the most Brian Cashman move ever. IKF/Donaldson vibes

Potential Blockbuster Deal Would Send Pair Of Cardinals Stars To Yankees.

"The Yankees swing a deal to acquire third baseman Nolan Arenado and closer Ryan Helsley from the St. Louis Cardinals, addressing a pair of needs. Arenado isn't the All-Star-caliber player he once was. His power numbers declined in each of the last three seasons, but he's still an elite defender who hardly strikes out. With three years and roughly $64 million remaining on his contract, it's an easier price tag for New York to swallow," Wile wrote.
 
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