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For Someone that's 26 with intermediate knowledge of computers, with a full time job would you recommend abandoning the job joining the air force to be trained in the 3d field or just studying on my own and taking the tests. (I already have a bachelors)
 

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For Someone that's 26 with intermediate knowledge of computers, with a full time job would you recommend abandoning the job joining the air force to be trained in the 3d field or just studying on my own and taking the tests. (I already have a bachelors)

Neither.

I would recommend enrolling in a technical school program that will have you prepared for the field in 3 to 18months depending on your schedule. If you are short on time, enroll in a bootcamp that can get you entry-level job ready in a month or so.

Just an FYI, many entry-level positions will waive the degree requirement if a candidate has the right certs + 1-2 yrs relevant experience. It's a matter of having demonstrative, relevant skills. You'll find that listings will specifically say a degree in Comp Sci/Engineering or a related technical field. A non-stem degree combined with zero experience or certs will not do anything for you.
 

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Neither.

I would recommend enrolling in a technical school program that will have you prepared for the field in 3 to 18months depending on your schedule. If you are short on time, enroll in a bootcamp that can get you entry-level job ready in a month or so.

Just an FYI, many entry-level positions will waive the degree requirement if a candidate has the right certs + 1-2 yrs relevant experience. It's a matter of having demonstrative, relevant skills. You'll find that listings will specifically say a degree in Comp Sci/Engineering or a related technical field. A non-stem degree combined with zero experience or certs will not do anything for you.

Solid advice. Thank you
 

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For Someone that's 26 with intermediate knowledge of computers, with a full time job would you recommend abandoning the job joining the air force to be trained in the 3d field or just studying on my own and taking the tests. (I already have a bachelors)
I would say if your level of knowledge is intermediate, work on getting a entry level cert. I don't agree with signing up for a bootcamp. If its free, then sure. But paying money for a boot camp at your level would probably be a waste imo. They probably aren't going to teach you anything that you couldn't learn by either taking a class at a community college or through self study.
 

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For Someone that's 26 with intermediate knowledge of computers, with a full time job would you recommend abandoning the job joining the air force to be trained in the 3d field or just studying on my own and taking the tests. (I already have a bachelors)

Doing the military (part time)in the guard/reserve can boost your chances of getting hired and pay with a clearance. Microsoft and Amazon are in a bidding war for cleared talent right now.
 

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For Someone that's 26 with intermediate knowledge of computers, with a full time job would you recommend abandoning the job joining the air force to be trained in the 3d field or just studying on my own and taking the tests. (I already have a bachelors)

I'm not a fan of the military.

I saw your other post about majoring in English. Why not go back to school and major in CS/Engineering/ or IT?

Don't quote me if you gonna say you bad a math. nikkas are not bad at math they just don't study enough.
 

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When you think about it, entry level techs do this by default. What do guys do when you lack experience? Highlight education and certs to show you have that knowledge. When we get to mid-level and beyond, at least for me, I completely lost sight of that and really just went for general lifetime achievement award type stuff that used to impress people back when the hiring manager used to keep boots on the ground.

I'm a client facing Desktop Support guy with experience managing projects. One such project was I had to manage the builds of three 30-seat computer labs. Usually, I talk about this on my resume and in interviews by focusing on what I did to accomplish this like:

-Project management tasks -planning and mapping network drops, quotes, submitting, budgets, etc)
- System Engineering tasks - build, test and deploying the images for each
- Administrative tasks - authored process documentation, reports...yada yada.

That used to cool back in the day but it seems like with this influx of people faking it till they make it combined with managers that don't understand the nuance of the underlying skills required to accomplish tasks, that doesn't do much to move the needle anymore.

Instead of tasks, I'm going to start emphasizing skills:
-Installed operating system on virtual machine in sandbox environment.
-Configured base image using Powershell script,etc, etc
-Captured and deployed image using symantec Ghost, etc

So it's a subtle pivot from just listing what I did to itemizing specifically how I did it and with which tools along the way.

The former IT director at my current job was like this. I was only two months into my job before he got fired.

Nobody in my IT department liked the guy and he didn't have any technical knowledge compared to my current manager.
 

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I'm not a fan of the military.

I saw your other post about majoring in English. Why not go back to school and major in CS/Engineering/ or IT?

Don't quote me if you gonna say you bad a math. nikkas are not bad at math they just don't study enough.

I hateddd school man. I also have student loans and can barely stay afloat with this full time job. I couldn't fathom my full time job and grad school. i know some people are able to do it even with kids and more power to them but unless I had a school and job in close proximity its a no. Also, i graduated with like a 2.4, I don't know what program i could get in.

I didn't study enough that's true but i really just hate it.
 

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I hateddd school man. I also have student loans and can barely stay afloat with this full time job. I couldn't fathom my full time job and grad school. i know some people are able to do it even with kids and more power to them but unless I had a school and job in close proximity its a no. Also, i graduated with like a 2.4, I don't know what program i could get in.

I didn't study enough that's true but i really just hate it.
To be honest with you, I wouldn't advise going back to school especially if you're going to have to take out loans. If you really want to get into IT, check try getting your A+/Network+ depending on your knowledge level. You can self study but if that's hard, some community colleges offer classes for them that shouldn't be that expensive. Once you have one of those start applying to some entry level positions and start working towards the Network+/Security+.
 

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I hateddd school man. I also have student loans and can barely stay afloat with this full time job. I couldn't fathom my full time job and grad school. i know some people are able to do it even with kids and more power to them but unless I had a school and job in close proximity its a no. Also, i graduated with like a 2.4, I don't know what program i could get in.

I didn't study enough that's true but i really just hate it.

You've fukked up big time if you can't get into grad school. At 26 hope you are more mature though.

Certs gang going to be your only way. It just take longer and you gonna have to work your way from the bottom. That help desk/entry level to making big bank is a grind good luck.
 

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You've fukked up big time if you can't get into grad school. At 26 hope you are more mature though.

Certs gang going to be your only way. It just take longer and you gonna have to work your way from the bottom. That help desk/entry level to making big bank is a grind good luck.
Yes he will need to start at entry and grind but it doesn't necessarily need to take long. The hardest part will probably be getting your foot in. Once he does, he will need to eat,sleep, and breath IT. The sole focus the first 2 years should be gaining as much experience as possible while trying to figure out what route he wants to go down. If you put in the effort and work hard you can move up pretty quickly. Never get comfortable.
 

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You've fukked up big time if you can't get into grad school. At 26 hope you are more mature though.

Certs gang going to be your only way. It just take longer and you gonna have to work your way from the bottom. That help desk/entry level to making big bank is a grind good luck.


Thanks, I'm leaning into getting the certs on my own and use my salary from my job to pay for these $300 tests. Only thing is I don't have the experience.
 

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This is one of the best threads on this site. I lurk daily but rarely post.

I wanna get into IT, I've been interested for years but scared to take the leap. I dont have any certs or a degree. I worked technical chat support for 1 of the biggest tech companies in the world (think about Eve's fruit) It was more customer service than tech related. I did that for w years or so. I then went to do tech support for Filemaker which is a database software similar to Excel I guess. I feel like I have average skills/knowledge. How can I accentuate my skills/experience to land my 1st help desk/IT job? I plan on studying for the A+ but I wanted to get my foot in the door somewhere in the meantime.
 
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