Issa Rae’s Emmy Winning Series: Insecure Official Thread

[Numpsay]

first off, relax

Second of all, remind me of a point in time in which Issa was actually there for Molly? Since the beginning of the show Issa's been trash towards her. I literally can't remember a single time Issa's actually been there for Molly whereas Molly's always showing up for Issa.

Off the top, here are the ways in which Molly's been a way better friend or Issa's let her down since jump
1. Broken p*ssy
2. Issa texting her new jumpoff in the whip after broken p*ssy
3. Molly helping Issa get broken p*ssy taken down w/ Jared's help to protect Issa's career
4. Molly running interference on Daniel at Issa's fund raiser
5. Molly trying to have a heart to heart w/ Issa about the Dro shyt at the baby shower and Issa hitting her w/ the "Iono girl seems like a problem" before cutting her off to leave and take a call about her job
6. Issa ghosting Molly on Thanksgiving
7. Issa never having anything actually solid to contribute to Molly other than a line of advice here or there
8. Issa ignoring / playing off Molly's out reach early in Season 4 about her work and Andrew situation (Molly's a corporate lawyer who can barely balance her personal life as is, but makes time for Issa...goes to Coachella even though she's got a crazy weekend work-wise, rides with Issa in the Lyft prior to her date with Andrew with Issa assuming sh'e available - as soon as Issa starts getting any professional traction or responsibility, she's completely unavailable to Molly)
9. Issa only being compelled to reach out to Molly when she needs help w /the Nathan situation - quite literally the trigger for her reaching back out
10. Issa still hasn't apologized for her flaky, userish role in the friendship

I can't defend how Molly reacted at the block party, but once you look at the rap sheet .

The best she's gotten from Issa is a line of advice Are we watching the same show?

More people relate to Issa than they relate to Molly thus they excuse and see past Issa's issues because its a lot of the same issues they have. You'd think the writers went out of their way to make Molly the "bad guy" but that isn't the case at all. I think they just under estimated how many people out here are more like Issa.

 

[rlg]

Dudes take women cheaters back all the time, successful or not. Hell even Scottie Pippen took Larsa back after Future discarded her.

Lawrence obviously feels some fault for letting it happen and still has feelings for Issa. That chemistry is hard to find. And neither one of them will find it again. I personally couldn’t take back a cheater... but I also would never let myself be down and out like Lawrence. So I personally can’t relate but I get it given how the characters have progressed over the show. Lawrence has gotten plenty of p*ssy and even been in a few relationships. None of his relationships post Issa have matched up. THAT is why he’s back

It's never the other persons fault for there mate cheating. She could have came home and simply said this relationship is over. She made a conscious decision to do what she did. As adults I think we can all agree on that. That would have either initiated a conversation between them to helping resolve the issue or she simply could have ended the relationship.

It happens, but more often that not it doesn't. Especially for a brother like Lawrence who checks all the boxes (no homo). With that said, if Issa did not cheat I wouldn't have a problem with it.

As far as Scottie Pippen goes it's a whole other ball game when people have kids together. Lawrence and Issa do not have kids together obviously.

 

[Milk N Cookies]

SN: To the brehs and brehettes in the show's demographic (early 30s), how accurate is the show's depiction of your demographic is (socially, financially, culturally etc)?

I think it’s spot on for black people in their 30s for really anywhere. You can put the characters anywhere and it would define us. Thats really what appeals to me because i can see myself in Issa and in some ways Molly. And shyt—- I’m going through the thing they going through trying to answer the same questions around the time they are. Like I was just in that situation...

 

[young3000]

I still feel the asian dude is cheating or something lol. Every time she comes in the room he gets off his phone, just saying!

You still thinking this

Clearly talking to his brother


Lawrence can do better Let Nathan have those sloppy seconds

Molly and Issa both deserve to be alone. No black man would put up with Molly acting like that

 

[Blankthawtz]

good ep.....i've dealt with friendships where I tried to extend an olive branch and the other person didn't meet me halfway....I politely escorted them out of my life after that...so I felt Issa on that one......Molly want Issa to kiss her ass and beg for forgiveness and at a certain point a person will have a revelation and realize another person is toxic to them and shouldn't be in their circle.....they better off bein separated for now....



i'm still lovin the Lawrence/Issa re-connection.....I got a feeling this job in San Francisco is gonn fukk them up tho....

 

[the bossman]

first off, relax

Second of all, remind me of a point in time in which Issa was actually there for Molly? Since the beginning of the show Issa's been trash towards her. I literally can't remember a single time Issa's actually been there for Molly whereas Molly's always showing up for Issa.



The best she's gotten from Issa is a line of advice Are we watching the same show?

nikka please. Molly talk about this the longest relationship she ever been in. You know how she got there? Issa was the whole reason why Molly even ended up with ol ching chong in the first place because that goofy bytch was ready to write him off after one date.

right from jump in season 1 Issa was the one who told Molly to go see a therapist for shyt she was going thru for clarity. Even tho Molly gave her the . Now that therapist is the first person Molly runs to everytime she starts stackin L's

Issa told that dumb bytch to stop judging Jared just because the nikka experimented one time and give the nikka a chance since he make you happy. then she realized how Issa was right and she fukked up when they bumped into each other at the movie festival with a nice piece on his arm like hey Molly

Issa literally had to fix this sloppy ass ho's dress after Dro got done smashin her in the bathroom at the b-day party reminding her she was nothing but a side piece. "Hey why don't you hang back for a few mins before you come out the bathroom"

Issa got issues too but at least she willing to admit her shyt. Molly messy but too proud to admit shyt which makes her shyt even worse

 

[BrehWyatt]

Yall nikkas trippin. Issa was bogus as hel to act like nothing happened between them. She invited her to brunch and should have been the one to bring up their issues.

Like always? That was one of the problems Issa voiced shows ago. She always has to reach out first. It's a two-way street.

 

[MJ Truth]

I pretty much agree with everything else but the bolded is on point. A lot of women are like this. Black, white whatever. The need to be right is the most important thing to them. It isnt solving a issue.

Most PEOPLE are like this for real.

 

[re'up]

Pretty onpoint especially having lived in LA.

The one thing that seems a little off is the trappings of the people you're supposed to look at as having their shyt together (e.g., Condola, Tiff). Owning these houses with gorgeous, renovated interiors that would probably cost you at least $500K, and more like $7+ in any nice neighborhoods, isn't something I saw. No one I knew was living like that - even amongst the dual income, both individuals making 6 figs crowd.

shyt, my bosses didn't even live like that in LA.

Molly's apartment in DTLA would easily cost her upwards of $3600 a month having looked at / been to apartments in that area. I've been to house / dinner parties in the apartment she's supposed to be in (as well as the one they're actually shooting in), and while she could afford those units it'd be a terrible financial decision. People I know were paying like $3K in those buildings but with much smaller / average apartment units.

A lawyer like her wouldn't be living THAT nice but I understand how they have to put some financial distance between her and Issa. Location means a ton in LA, so it's not as easy to convey that over the screen.

Socially and culturally it's incredibly onpoint, though.

Haven't lived there, but try to spend a lot of time in LA, and have a half dozen or so friends in various positions across the city, there is certainly some aspirational, slightly fantastical element to the lush houses of some cast members, and I think it's a good balance between realism and fantasy. I think Molly would easily be able to afford that place, as I am thinking, being a top associate at a high powered law firm, she's clearing 150k or so, (or more) which means a $3600/month is pretty reasonable. All those firms offering her positions, and labored contract/salary discussions, aren't for like 50k salaries, they are for the top earners, or the tier just below.

*Never speak too badly about someone's ex, it never makes you look, I try to walk a line between ignoring and lightly clowning, but it isn't always easy. Partly, because I am so rarely impressed with anyone's partners, whether compared to me, or not.

 

[Ethnic Cleansing]

He still clapping her cheeks, or if not, she was the worst wastes of filler the show has had to date.

She served as the catalyst for Lawrence awakening that he wanted Issa back as well as being instrumental in Issa finally getting out of her own way and being successful at something.

She actually changed both Issa and Lawrence'' arc. Wouldn't call her filler

 

[threattonature]

Haven't lived there, but try to spend a lot of time in LA, and have a half dozen or so friends in various positions across the city, there is certainly some aspirational, slightly fantastical element to the lush houses of some cast members, and I think it's a good balance between realism and fantasy. I think Molly would easily be able to afford that house, as I am thinking, being a top associate at a high powered law firm, she's clearing 150k or so, which means a $3600/month is pretty reasonable. All those firms offering her positions, and labored contract/salary discussions, aren't for like 50k salaries, they are for the top earners, or the tier just below.

*Never speak too badly about someone's ex, it never makes you look, I try to walk a line between ignoring and lightly clowning, but it isn't always easy.

Ego wise people don't want to look stupid. So the second somebody starts dissing the ex, especially if they got back with them already they'll get defensive and cling to that ex even harder just cause they don't want to look dumb. Once somebody made their mind up ain't no amount of dirty macking gone change that shyt it'll just push that person away further.

 

[Mr Hate Coffee]

nikka please. Molly talk about this the longest relationship she ever been in. You know how she got there? Issa was the whole reason why Molly even ended up with ol ching chong in the first place because that goofy bytch was ready to write him off after one date.

right from jump in season 1 Issa was the one who told Molly to go see a therapist for shyt she was going thru for clarity. Even tho Molly gave her the . Now that therapist is the first person Molly runs to everytime she starts stackin L's

Issa told that dumb bytch to stop judging Jared just because the nikka experimented one time and give the nikka a chance since he make you happy. then she realized how Issa was right and she fukked up when they bumped into each other at the movie festival with a nice piece on his arm like hey Molly

Issa literally had to fix this sloppy ass ho's dress after Dro got done smashin her in the bathroom at the b-day party reminding her she was nothing but a side piece. "Hey why don't you hang back for a few mins before you come out the bathroom"

Issa got issues too but at least she willing to admit her shyt. Molly messy but too proud to admit shyt which makes her shyt even worse

Facts. The fact that people really out here writing paragraphs to defend Molly has me like

 

[re'up]

Ego wise people don't want to look stupid. So the second somebody starts dissing the ex, especially if they got back with them already they'll get defensive and cling to that ex even harder just cause they don't want to look dumb. Once somebody made their mind up ain't no amount of dirty macking gone change that shyt it'll just push that person away further.

Good insight, I do think though, that in todays current millennial "our/my" generation there is so much language and though about "cutting off/leveling up" and other phrases, that by definition the ex is inferior, whether that reflects truth or not. That said, still better to not engage much. Adhere to the more mature of rap's offerings, where the ex is entirely irrelevant.

 

[Professor K.]

Molly been dead to me since she pulled that fukk shyt with the parking spot but this was the icing on the cake. Issa should never look back and Andrew-san needs to give her the immediately

 

[BrehWyatt]

Issa was wrong for skirting the issue about the block party, but like Andrew said, Molly could’ve met her half way. Molly is STILL a selfish, unrealistic bytch but Issa has to take a little responsibility for the demise of their relationship too.

I don't think Issa would have minded issuing a mea culpa if Molly showed any kind of interest in wanting to do the same or AT LEAST talk about it.

I mean, Issa made herself available for brunch and conversation. She made herself available when she didn't have to. All Molly had to do is be like, "Look, we've been off for months and it came to a head at the block party. Let's talk about it" and that was that.

As her therapist alluded to, Molly would have rather been right than to salvage the strongest friendship she had. If you reach that level of doneness, so be it. But considering how she hit the when Issa was like, "OK, if you don't want this, I'll stop fighting for it " said she wasn't done. She was too fukking prideful.