Israel–Hamas War: 10/7/2023 - Present

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Saying oh yeah palestine existed bbbut it wasn’t a country sounds like juelzing to me. zionist/white supremacist juelzing. Zionists had absolutely no right to any part of palestine. The justification for them going there and staying there is that they needed some place to go not that the place actually belongs to them.

In another time, we could have been talking about Uganda instead of palestine


 

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@Chrishaune That's talking about the Edomites that's occupying the land. The one that calls themselves Jews, but really the synagogue of Satan. Christ said when he come back he's gonna have so much blood on his garment, it's gonna look like he's stomping on a wine press. All Edomite blood, the only nation the Lord said he will be wiped out forever. The strong delusion the verses is taking about is modern day christianity. The real Israelites don't celebrate the biblical holy days no more. They are too busy being the biggest consumers on cac holidays.
@Marks that blood golem caused so many problems :wow:
 

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The Bible never says the land was mostly desert, it says it was a prosperous land of milk and honey before the Jews were ever there. The desertification of Israel was manmade from cutting down trees, occuring largely during the Roman period (when the Jews were in the land), though continuing to some degree up until the 20th century.
the persians have power over this phrase
Scaphism (from Greek σκάφη, meaning "boat"),[1] also known as the boats, is an alleged ancient Persian method of execution mentioned by Plutarch in his Life of Artaxerxes. It ostensibly entailed trapping the victim between two boats, feeding and covering them with milk and honey, and allowing them to fester and be devoured by insects and other vermin over time.
if you have an eye like mine, you will realize that the battle there stems from Egyptians and Hittites and confusion over Judges (othniel and ehud)
 

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thanks for acknowledging that britain a colonial power, waged an unprovoked war against the ottoman empire and helped setup the colonial state of isreal via the The British Mandate.

they stole the land and the people who they stole it from have been fighting back ever since.
They land had been in the hands of the ottoman empire since about the 1500s I am sure if you look it up you can get the exact date.

Once again the BRITISH fukked it up. They promised the arabs that if the revolted against the ottoman empire they would get the land. Then they renigged on their promise. It was never Palestinian land.

How far back do we go we obviously know that Jews were there since the times of Jesus and before. Jews have over 4000 years of history with the land. How people think they don't have a claim is crazy.

Were the Palestinians lied to? Yeah they got a raw deal, but that's how the British move especially back then . You couldn't trust them.
 

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Religion :mjlol:

evey generation think their time is the time but only to die off.




Father Time the only thing to defeat it :wow:


This conflict has little to do with religion at its core.

The way Hamas uses Islam is similar to how Ho Chi Minh used communism as leader of Vietname against the French and American Powers.

Its a donation collection tool and it gets core people motivated and in line.



This is all about 1948 and Western imperialism creating enough tension in the region to create organizations like Hamas.
 

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thanks for acknowledging that britain a colonial power, waged an unprovoked war against the ottoman empire and helped setup the colonial state of isreal via the The British Mandate.

they stole the land and the people who they stole it from have been fighting back ever since.
There was nothing unprovoked the Ottomans were a$$holes Black Sea raid - Wikipedia

The Arabs hated the Ottomans. Arab Revolt - Wikipedia

Hell everyone hated them. Jews, Armenians, Assyrians, Greeks etc. They were on demon time.


Israel was created by the British but they tried to hold them back from taking land ( if you look up the mandate it was just a few scattered communities) but the Jews started doing terror attacks against British soldiers






British pretty much threw their hands up and told the UN to handle it. The Arabs fumbled the bag when they lost the 1948 war.
 

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So jews do terror attacks on cacs and cacs just throw their hands up

Muslims do terror attacks...all women and children need to die

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The British came very close to rolling on them. They put 11,000 Jews in camps and executed a lot of Jewish leaders. Jewish groups in the US government and public opinion because of the Holocaust footage being made public and their empire crumbling elsewhere pretty much forced them to abandon Palestine. They still supported the Arab armies during the war.
 

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@Tair

Zionist Logic​

By Malcolm X​


The Zionist armies that now occupy Palestine claim their ancient Jewish prophets predicted that in the "last days of this world" their own God would raise them up a "messiah" who would lead them to their promised land, and they would set up their own "divine" government in this newly-gained land, this "divine" government would enable them to "rule all other nations with a rod of iron."

If the Israeli Zionists believe their present occupation of Arab Palestine is the fulfillment of predictions made by their Jewish prophets, then they also religiously believe that Israel must fulfill its "divine" mission to rule all other nations with a rod of irons, which only means a different form of iron-like rule, more firmly entrenched even, than that of the former European Colonial Powers.

These Israeli Zionists religiously believe their Jewish God has chosen them to replace the outdated European colonialism with a new form of colonialism, so well disguised that it will enable them to deceive the African masses into submitting willingly to their "divine" authority and guidance, without the African masses being aware that they are still colonized.

Camouflage

The Israeli Zionists are convinced they have successfully camouflaged their new kind of colonialism. Their colonialism appears to be more "benevolent," more "philanthropic," a system with which they rule simply by getting their potential victims to accept their friendly offers of economic "aid," and other tempting gifts, that they dangle in front of the newly-independent African nations, whose economies are experiencing great difficulties. During the 19th century, when the masses here in Africa were largely illiterate it was easy for European imperialists to rule them with "force and fear," but in this present era of enlightenment the African masses are awakening, and it is impossible to hold them in check now with the antiquated methods of the 19th century.

The imperialists, therefore, have been compelled to devise new methods. Since they can no longer force or frighten the masses into submission, they must devise modern methods that will enable them to maneuver the African masses into willing submission.

The modern 20th century weapon of neo-imperialism is "dollarism." The Zionists have mastered the science of dollarism: the ability to come posing as a friend and benefactor, bearing gifts and all other forms of economic aid and offers of technical assistance. Thus, the power and influence of Zionist Israel in many of the newly "independent" African nations has fast-become even more unshakeable than that of the 18th century European colonialists...and this new kind of Zionist colonialism differs only in form and method, but never in motive or objective.

At the close of the 19th century when European imperialists wisely foresaw that the awakening masses of Africa would not submit to their old method of ruling through force and fears, these ever-scheming imperialists had to create a "new weapon," and to find a "new base" for that weapon.

Dollarism

The number one weapon of 20th century imperialism is Zionist dollarism, and one of the main bases for this weapon is Zionist Israel. The ever-scheming European imperialists wisely placed Israel where she could geographically divide the Arab world, infiltrate and sow the seed of dissension among African leaders and also divide the Africans against the Asians.

Zionist Israel's occupation of Arab Palestine has forced the Arab world to waste billions of precious dollars on armaments, making it impossible for these newly independent Arab nations to concentrate on strengthening the economies of their countries and elevate the living standard of their people.

And the continued low standard of living in the Arab world has been skillfully used by the Zionist propagandists to make it appear to the Africans that the Arab leaders are not intellectually or technically qualified to lift the living standard of their people...thus, indirectly inducing Africans to turn away from the Arabs and towards the Israelis for teachers and technical assistance.

"They cripple the bird's wing, and then condemn it for not flying as fast as they."

The imperialists always make themselves look good, but it is only because they are competing against economically crippled newly independent countries whose economies are actually crippled by the Zionist-capitalist conspiracy. They can't stand against fair competition, thus they dread Gamal Abdul Nasser's call for African-Arab Unity under Socialism.

Messiah?

If the "religious" claim of the Zionists is true that they were to be led to the promised land by their messiah, and Israel's present occupation of Arab Palestine is the fulfillment of that prophesy: where is their messiah whom their prophets said would get the credit for leading them there? It was [United Nations mediator] Ralph Bunche who "negotiated" the Zionists into possession of Occupied Palestine! Is Ralph Bunche the messiah of Zionism? If Ralph Bunche is not their messiah, and their messiah has not yet come, then what are they doing in Palestine ahead of their messiah?

Did the Zionists have the legal or moral right to invade Arab Palestine, uproot its Arab citizens from their homes and seize all Arab property for themselves just based on the "religious" claim that their forefathers lived there thousands of years ago? Only a thousand years ago the Moors lived in Spain. Would this give the Moors of today the legal and moral right to invade the Iberian Peninsula, drive out its Spanish citizens, and then set up a new Moroccan nation...where Spain used to be, as the European Zionists have done to our Arab brothers and sisters in Palestine?

In short the Zionist argument to justify Israel's present occupation of Arab Palestine has no intelligent or legal basis in history...not even in their own religion. Where is their Messiah?


The Egyptian Gazette, Sept. 17, 1964
 
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