So like these biological father's friends and family? Birds of a feather I imagine. Most people hang with similar or like minded people. If he's not active in his kids life, i imagine is friends aren't either and then family would be somewhat paradoxical because if he's around his family he's not an absentee father.I mean the men in the father's circle. The loud voices are always about the ones who ain't doing shyt so much so that we ignore the dads who are. But that comes when the community isn't allowed to shape shape own narrative. Which is another thread in and of itself