Is there something going on with The Rock?

[Clark Wayne]

I gotta ask this. Since a movie has to make 3 times it's budget how many movies are doing that these days?

Typically horror movies when they are good, are very profitable. A great example is something like Smile that came out last year.

Cost $17 million and made $217 million.

Funny thing is that it was originally supposed to go straight to streaming but a producer saw it and had it put in theaters.

Similar situation with the recent Evil Dead. Estimated to cost between $15-$19 million and has made $145 million.

On the other end, the Justice League movie that came out in 2017, WB actually lost money on it even though it made $657 million. That’s because the budget was $300 million and that didn’t even include marketing.

 

[Primetime]

Dwayne was overdue for a signature series like 10 years ago back when he still had the youthful seasoned action star look (remember, Fast Five came out in 2011.. he was 39 years old) but he wasted that remaining window on Hercules, Baywatch, GI Joe, couple other mid-stuff, and Kevin Hart team-ups.

I mentioned it in the film room: Will Smith and Tom Cruise are in their 50s but got their hits in their 20s and 30s, so now that they're getting a bit up their in age and Hollywood is a bit more hesistant with new IPs, they're going back to their greatest hits in the "old man" role (Bad Boys, Top Gun, etc) to cash out.

Whereas Rock suddenly finds himself 51 and still pursuing his first franchise hit... with studios not as willing to invest as much money on him as before.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Typically horror movies when they are good, are very profitable. A great example is something like Smile that came out last year.

Cost $17 million and made $217 million.

Funny thing is that it was originally supposed to go straight to streaming but a producer saw it and had it put in theaters.

Similar situation with the recent Evil Dead. Estimated to cost between $15-$19 million and has made $145 million.

On the other end, the Justice League movie that came out in 2017, WB actually lost money on it even though it made $657 million. That’s because the budget was $300 million and that didn’t even include marketing.

Fast X is about to run into that situation as well

 

[malleymal]

Poor Black Adam performance after this huge build up and strong arming left a bad taste in peoples’ mouths..

He needs to stick to those buddy cop flicks, or movies with Kevin Hart. That’s his lane. I see that he is spearheading a live action Moana, so that has bank written all over it. He will be out front on that one for sure.

His other ventures may be more profitable. He is always pushing Tremana tequila or the XFL. Wish him success.

 

[BlackAchilles]

Rock wishes he had a movie he starred in solo as good and as profitable (adjusted for inflation) as Under Siege 1.

Steven Segal had a hit

Wow great rebuttals

On further review yeah y'all are right, Rock definitely wishes he was in Steven Seagals shoes rn

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

Wow great rebuttals

On further review yeah y'all are right, Rock definitely wishes he was in Steven Seagals shoes rn

As in a hit movie to call his own? It’s possible

 

[Buckeye Fever]

Solo projects his numbers are horrible and he had to realized he need two or 3 other good actors on the screen to get numbers

It’s like do u want to hear 12 songs with just Dr Dre rapping on it? Or u need to have snoop, kurupt, game, Kendrick on it as well to really go out and buy it

This post makes me wanna bump 2001

 

[KidJSoul]

Black Adam had a budget of 260 million and made almost 400 million at the box office, how is that a flop?

The studio doesn't earn all of the $400 million. A lot of it (usually around half) goes to the theater.

So if you split the $400, the studio really only collected $200 mil. And the budget was $260 (which may or not include the print and advertising budget)

So they probably lost around $60 million

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

Dwayne Johnson’s Alleged Ego Tanked ‘Black Adam’ and ‘Shazam’: Report

A new report alleges that The Rock tried to insert himself in the middle of Warner Bros.’ rebooted DC Universe, derailing both his own film and “Shazam: Fury of the Gods.”

www.thedailybeast.com

I think the funniest thing about the rock is that he writes his contacts like he writes his wrestling contracts.

By that I mean he has stipulations regarding how much damage his character can take. His characters can only take so many punches and he CAN'T lose a fight.

 

[O.Red]

Hollywood TURNED ON HIM like they did with Will Smith.

Primarily because they STEPPED OUT of character

Nah we can't do this The Rock was a victim of his own aggressive ambition

When Rock went to Universal behind Vin Diesel's (an executive producer) back to try to get his own FF franchise you should've seen what time it was. Rock does the smiling and the motivational language but underneath that is a Marlo ass nikka trying to have it all

Rock comes from wrestling, a hyper competitive arena where you have to make yourself hot if you want to eat. Rock not only made himself hot, he became the most popular wrestler ever. He carried that energy into Hollywood, but there are different factors to consider in the movie business

Rock tried to finesse Fast and Furious and failed. Rock then tried to finesse himself into being the centerpiece of the DCEU and failed He fought and he lost in many ways the ambition is admirable.

But we can't act like Rock is the victim of some grand conspiracy I don't even think Rock himself sees it that way

Go hard or go home

 

[GatorStaceyAdams]

Nah we can't do this The Rock was a victim of his own aggressive ambition

When Rock went to Universal behind Vin Diesel's (an executive producer) back to try to get his own FF franchise you should've seen what time it was. Rock does the smiling and the motivational language but underneath that is a Marlo ass nikka trying to have it all

Rock comes from wrestling, a hyper competitive arena where you have to make yourself hot if you want to eat. Rock not only made himself hot, he became the most popular wrestler ever. He carried that energy into Hollywood, but there are different factors to consider in the movie business

Rock tried to finesse Fast and Furious and failed. Rock then tried to finesse himself into being the centerpiece of the DCEU and failed He fought and he lost in many ways the ambition is admirable.

But we can't act like Rock is the victim of some grand conspiracy I don't even think Rock himself sees it that way

Go hard or go home

He creates a series with no premise other than, his life ("Young Rock").

Then he goes on Twitter asking whether or not he should run for president??


Dude is charismatic and obviously talented enough, but he may be one of the most narcissistic actors of the past decade.

 

[Luke Cage]

He creates a series with no premise other than, his life ("Young Rock").

Then he goes on Twitter asking whether or not he should run for president??


Dude is charismatic and obviously talented enough, but he may be one of the most narcissistic actors of the past decade.

That was actually a good show, at least the season i watched. but he not actually acting in it beyond a few short intro scenes here and there so

 

[Legal]

Fast X is about to run into that situation as well

Yeah, they might catch a low key brick on Fast X, and ironically, really might benefit from getting The Rock back in as a hook for the next one.

Vin Diesel is a classic case of someone who someone who doesn't seem to actually understand why their product is popular. The last two Fast and Furious movies have been fukking trash, and it's mostly because of tonal whiplash, and stretching the fukkery beyond the limits of what the audience is willing to suspend their disbelief for.

The studio doesn't earn all of the $400 million. A lot of it (usually around half) goes to the theater.

So if you split the $400, the studio really only collected $200 mil. And the budget was $260 (which may or not include the print and advertising budget)

So they probably lost around $60 million

Yep. Even when studios strongarm theaters like Disney and take more than 50%, they still need pretty hefty sales to legit turn a profit.

It's also why we're seeing product placement in movies get far more blatant. Shaving off a few million just for getting in a couple of glamour shots of a car (including the manufacturer badge, of course) can really help the bottom line in the long run.

 

[Jazzy B.]

Nah we can't do this The Rock was a victim of his own aggressive ambition

When Rock went to Universal behind Vin Diesel's (an executive producer) back to try to get his own FF franchise you should've seen what time it was. Rock does the smiling and the motivational language but underneath that is a Marlo ass nikka trying to have it all

Rock comes from wrestling, a hyper competitive arena where you have to make yourself hot if you want to eat. Rock not only made himself hot, he became the most popular wrestler ever. He carried that energy into Hollywood, but there are different factors to consider in the movie business

Rock tried to finesse Fast and Furious and failed. Rock then tried to finesse himself into being the centerpiece of the DCEU and failed He fought and he lost in many ways the ambition is admirable.

But we can't act like Rock is the victim of some grand conspiracy I don't even think Rock himself sees it that way

Go hard or go home

Look at the difference in discourse between what the Rock did and what Robert Downey Jr did

RDJ STRONGARMED Disney/Marvel into pay him way more than his coworkers, forced himself into movies he was never supposed to be in and partly got an co worker FIRED and was yet met with praise for every move he made. The Rock does the same thing with the exception of getting a coworker fired. Hell he got Henry Cavill back as Superman for cacs and it was still because a Breh wanted to run “their” comics universe.

 

[O.Red]

Look at the difference in discourse between what the Rock did and what Robert Downey Jr did

RDJ STRONGARMED Disney/Marvel into pay him way more than his coworkers, forced himself into movies he was never supposed to be in and partly got an co worker FIRED and was yet met with praise for every move he made. The Rock does the same thing with the exception of getting a coworker fired. Hell he got Henry Cavill back as Superman for cacs and it was still because a Breh wanted to run “their” comics universe.

The difference is RDJ didn't make any power moves until he had leverage. Nikkas forget the media run leading up to Iron Man 1 where he was basically trotted around as a redemption tale that's lucky to have one more shot. He was humble as a sheep during that Iron Man 1 media run

Also I'm pretty sure you made most of that other shyt up what the fukk

RDJ damn near went on strike to get his Avengers costars higher pay. This was a big media story around the time between Avengers 1 and Age of Ultron

Forced himself into movies he wasn't supposed to be in? The nikka that tried THREE times to quit playing Iron Man? What movies did he force himself into?

Who did he get fired? Nikka I KNOW you ain't talking about Terrance Howard Terrance Howard, as a COSTAR, was the highest paid actor in Iron Man 1 and tried to finesse a higher salary for the sequel. That's fine but he learned Marvel wasn't gonna play his game. Where in that did RDJ get him fired?

On the other Rock tries to make power moves with no internal leverage or equivalent success. We'd probably be having a different conversation about Rock's moves on Black Adam if the movie was a success, but it wasn't so here we are