Dwight Howard
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Regardless of what Kobe "wanted" he stuck around. All that matters, no star wants to be apart of a rebuild during their prime.
Is Steph winning his fourth Finals putting Lebron Era to the back burner for the 00s
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You mean LeBron carried them to nearly 70 wins, and they were trash from the second he left until he came back and brought them a ring.
LeBron went back to Cleveland to return home. Lol. He didn't go there to necessarily play with kyrie - who never won nothing. What did kyrie Irving ever win before or after playing with lebron?
Show me all the other names that this board generally has in the goat conversation, and 10 times out of 10, they all had more of a talent advantage around them than lebron had.
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Kobe didn't even want to be apart of a rebuild as a 17 year old draft prospect.
Yall ass-backwards.
You could draw a straight line from 2012 to 2020 and it would almost exactly follow the trend. There was no meaningful change in the trend in 2015, just random yearly fluctuation. Anyone looking at the chart clearly sees that 2012-13 drove the change, not 2015.
You mean he left a trash trash Cleveland squad that won 17 games the year before he got there and 17 games the year after he left.
Not a single superstar in NBA history other than LeBron has given 7 years of his career to a squad as trash as the Cavs. Kareem and Wilt left their squads faster than that and they weren't nearly as bad, Magic and Kobe refused to be drafted by teams far superior to the Cavaliers.
murksiderock
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Kobe stans dapping this bs when Duncan got the same amount of championships and more finals MVPs and yet nobody calls the 2000s his era
Given his immense talent and basketball mind, at 19 years in Bron would almost certainly be beyond the hallowed 6 rings that apparently make one the greatest ever, had he refused the Cavs and forced his way onto a team with an established star in waiting and great culture back in 2003...
lol and then they Ray Allen three and Pop deciding to keep Duncan on the Bench not in there to get the rebound so its really 1 real ringYou forgot the lockout season... Bron got 2 rings and 2*
Trojan 24
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Pat Bev said it’s even right now
Anyone arguing that Curry was the catalyst for the NBA moving towards more three point centric offenses isn't old enough to be talking about this topic.
2000-2002 Kings
2009 Magic
2011 Mavs
2014 Spurs
All three point heavy teams before Curry was a thing. The Magic stick out particularly for me, because if memory serves, they set a 3p record in the ECF vs LeBron, and died by the 3 vs the Lakers in the Finals.
Spurs 2014 finals and 2013 run really kicked started it when they were hitting nba record level of 3s with 2014 really putting the exclamation point for the simple fact the passing and then the 3s. The record margin win victory inspired other teams to do it but what people failed to realize the attempt weren’t ass high just the spurs were efficient
94/95 Rockets and Magic even before that. Feed the big, kick out to the shooters. Feed the big, kick out to the shooters. Over and over and over again.
But to the degree that the trend has accelerated the last 10 years (beginning before anyone gave a shyt about Curry), I don't think any particular team was the model. The model was analytics. More and more teams began adopting analytics as a primary part of their strategy, and analytics told them to shoot more threes. The teams that didn't follow were left in the dust. THAT was the driving factor above and beyond any single team or player being the model.
