No. Bron is better. Steph is chasing Magic as an all time PG. Bron is chasing MJ and Kareem for best ever.
Is Steph winning his fourth Finals putting Lebron Era to the back burner for the 00s
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No. Bron is better. Steph is chasing Magic as an all time PG. Bron is chasing MJ and Kareem for best ever.
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That sorta bugs me cause Steph's role and Magic's role isn't even comparable. Regardless of their designated position, Steph's role is primarily as a scoring guard, not a point guard. I sorta feel the same way about West, Dame, Kyrie, and Ja.
If you're putting Steph over Bron then you have to have him over Magic.
it is weird, espescially with celtics who can pose the bigger threat
some of it is nikkas trying to pull a Malc tho
I've been sleeping on it, just off the strength that Steph got Wiggins looking like a competent player you gotta consider him as the GOAT of his generation
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In the Coli reality distortion bubble only a thread like this could even reach this much pages
Jerry is my nfl goatIf you're counting that then why are you ignoring the two NFL Championship games he lost?
This is Jim Brown's ENTIRE playoff record:
1957: Got a bye into the NFL championship, then lost 59-14
1958: Lost the Division championship 10-0
1964: Won NFL Championship 27-0
1965: Got a bye into NFL championship, then lost 23-12
That's it. For his career he's 1-3 in the playoffs, 1-2 in the title game. You claimed he didn't have a losing record in the title game, you LIED.
Jim Brown, your self-admitted GOAT, has a losing record in the title game and lost by double-digits in every playoff game he ever played except for one.
And you're still ignoring Maradona, Wilt, West, Baylor, Williams, Mays, Bonds, and Clemons.
You were wrong in literally every major sport. Just give up.
Jim is the goat running back. Best at his position imo. Same as Bron at the 3.
Bron not even over Magic though in my opinion. Magic impact to the game and winning is more impressive than Lebron. Lebron is a child of Magic but he is not better. Lebron came in the era where fouls and hand-checking went away. Dude had free roam to walk and drive to the basket for years.
gsw isnt beating cs or mia
That chart you showed still showed another big increase post 2016.All that shyt is true but it was changing before Curry had jack shyt to do with it and the main changes were for reasons that had nothing to do with Curry.
You can see 3pt attempts were increasing constantly, and if anything the big movement where they started jumping up in a new way came from 2012 to 2013. Curry averaged 14.7ppg in 2012 so it makes zero sense to credit him with inspiring that jump, if anything Curry was the benefactor of the move to more 3pt shooting, he went from shooting 4.7 three-point attempts a game each of his first three seasons to 7.7 three-pointers a game in 2013, the exact same moment the NBA in general took the leap.
What made 2013 different? Teams started pushing analytics super heavy and devaluing the midrange in favor of the 3pt. Houston led the way. THAT was the difference more than Curry was.
Curry's the greatest 3pt shooter in NBA history, why would inferior shooters start taking pull-up threes just because the GOAT was doing it? That's like if other players started dunking from the free throw line cause Wilt did it or making chase-down blocks cause Bron did it.
Having a non-GOAT take crazy three-point shots wasn't from copying Curry. It was from copying guys like Dame, Harden, PG13, who were nowhere near the shooters that Curry was yet were shooting 500+ threes in a season at the exact same time Curry was ramping it up.
What year did he show that?
The chart shows that 3pt attempts started ramping up like crazy in 2013, two years before Steph ever won a chip.
The Warriors did win the chip in 2015....when the Cavs hung with them for 6 games despite looking like a M.A.S.H. unit and Steph underperformed so badly that he didn't get a single Finals MVP vote. You think THAT season changed the NBA perception of shooters? Or did it just look like a fluke that they only won cause everyone else got hurt?
Warriors weren't even a top-three 3pta squad that season:
Rockets 32.7 threes/game
Cavaliers 27.5 threes/game
Blazers 27.2 threes/game
Warriors 27.0 threes/game
So did 2016 prove that a 3pt-shooting team could win....even though they blew a 3-1 lead? Or was it 2017, when they got Durant, dropped out of the top-5 in three-point shooting, and dominated easily?
Curry was the face of the movement to fans, but for actual NBA teams analytics was driving that shyt, not Curry, and Houston was the face of the analytics change, not the Warriors. Warriors always stayed MUCH more committed to the mid-range game and a balanced offense than teams like the Rockets, Cavs, Mavs, etc. did.
But again, Curry's influence wasn't just the amount of threes taken. I agree that it is a lityle misattributed. It's the types of threes players were allowed to take. And the types of frowned upon shots he's normalized. Logo threes, off the dribble pull up early in the shot clock, etc. They are more normalized now.
Look at this way.
Music videos were already popular before Michael Jackson. But Jackson is still credited because he truly showed the value of it as a medium with Thriller. He normalized music videos as a staple in song promotion and standardized the types of music videos (short form movies, dance routines, film cameras rather than TV cameras, etc) artists would do.
You gotta be 12 years old. Did you miss LeBron first 7 years in Cleveland?
Lol. Kobe forced his way to a contender on draft night, and wanted no parts of any actual rebuilding teams at any point. When the Lakers had to rebuild after Shaq left, Kobe wanted out.
There was no real spurs rebuild bro.
This warriors team isnt really a rebuild either. It's more like the 90s bulls transitioning rosters with the core remaining intact.
That's more of a compliment to the warriors organization.....Not so much a compliment to steph, for simply staying in a perfect sitution. Lol.
And LeBron didn't team-hop. Those teams were all built around him. An example of a team-hopper would be Kevin durant.
He left a near 70 win team to play with a finals mvp in Wade. He left Miami after going 2 and 2 in finals to go play with Kyrie in Cleveland. A player of his nature shouldn't do that if he a GOAT