Is society promoting Black Women and leaving Black Men behind?

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I'm gonna disagree with this post. Not with its content, but its perspective. The question here is, "Is SOCIETY promoting bw and leaving bm behind?" You responded to a different question.

Im still curious to know if you agree that SOCIETY is giving us a bit of a boost rn. Bc it's super obvious. My mother was in store at Macy's recently and the cashier, a fellow older bw, gave her the little spiel about the charities she could donate her change to. The only black one was explicitly for black girls. Moms, aqua down to her bones , asked why there were no bm focused charities. The cashier got offended, ppl were staring, it became a thing.

If that's not a societal, institutional boost, I dont know what is.

Yeah…no.
It’s the “giving” part that makes me itch b/c nobody in this society GIVES anybody blk anything. AND they damn sure don’t give anything blk and female anything. Black women literally working and puttin in work in many cases alone. Do you know that black women represented a HUGE portion of grassroots small businesses in 2020-21? Nobody is giving blk women specifically anything. Not marriage. Not money. Not a pass. Nothing. They are writing grants. They are writing for donations from sports groups. Superstars. Celebrities. They are putting in work.

Are there agents in our race? Sure. Do some of them have vaginas? Yep. But many have dikks too. So the presence of agents isn’t about one group or another. Some in our community just ain’t gonna be down for us, male or female. But that doesn’t negate the work majority of black women are doing to improve their lives for themselves.

Spoiler: Ramblings

We literally get paid the least amount of income in the U.S. Somewhere like 60 cents to every dollar white men make. And still pushing forward. I see blk chicks in the gym and on hiking trails getting clowned and insulted by our own race of men. But they still pushing forward. Some are doing this while raising babies. Taking care elders. And still doing all this under white supremacy with a nice helping of misogyny too.

So to couch this conversation about the little success blk women have from their own efforts as being agents of white supremacy is disheartening and disingenuous.

If blk women are kept out of clubs b:c of stereotypes of them being ugly and masculine…and they build their own clubs, that’s not an agenda. That’s a comeback.

A boost is happening, but it’s driven primarily from black women themselves due to the many attacks, degradation, insults, abuse that has been endured. There are plenty of programs primarily focused on black males. I even have a list of them on this site. But as soon as there is any focus on black women, it’s a problem? In spite of the white supremacy and the misogyny they face?

Instead of giving them hate, match their hustle. Learn from them. Build with them. Overwhelming majority of Black women literally just trying to build their own tables and it’s always an open invite for positive supportive men and women who ain’t trying to pull them down. But those who only think blk women are ugly, manly, only getting degrees in basketweaving, ghetto, rachet, helmet hair hat, twerking thugettes trying to steal a black man’s joy…I’m sorry but that’s not only wrong but it’s counterproductive.

But I saw this writing on the wall ages ago. All this focus on humbling black women and “female accountability” doesn’t actually give men anything. Men cannot walk and chew gum at the same time. Their hyperfocus on women being the problem has always merely been a smokescreen to help them avoid their own problems. It just gives women something to prove while men get a pass to never confront their issues. The results: the women get tougher and the men fall by the wayside. Until men put aside their egos and face themselves, it’s only going to get worse.

Black women aren’t the enemy, any more than black men are. It’s time we realized this.
There are other themes at play here but I don’t want to bore ya’ll with my theories of everything and make this post any longer…
(And they finished with my oil change so Imma stop being a weirdo and giggling at my phone in Firestone…

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Most of the names u posted if not all was created by white men to denigrate bw

And liberals do push bw to the forefront over bm to divide

They act as if straight black men dont exist or if they acknowledge them they only speak on them to negative sterotypes.

They also hate when black men act masculine and try to portray any masculinty as toxic


Nothing wrong with bw promoting themselves but dont shyt on bm to do it or help divide the black community in the process

That why folks got a problem wit it

That’s what blk women have been saying about blk men who gain success as well.

Unfortunately there will always be agents in our race. But we need to do more to focus on the positives while starving the negatives.

 

[pete clemenza]

Facts, this is all over tv nowadays. Case in point, I'm a fan of the show Ozark like everyone else I guess but this black female FBI agent -where's the father to her kid at? And of course the one black male FBI agent was gay

 

[bnew]

If that was the case they'd have more black men to look at for black women...

I was just talking about this the other day in regards to euphoria. No real black male teen lead, especially in season 2 . They'd never have a good looking black dude play the role of say...Nate.

In my opinion, we have presence, and we are more of a...threat to certain dynamics that pre-exist. Want a dominant white male in a show? A masculine black man will over power him from a presence standpoint and undermind the dynamic they want.

We're scary to them man. Women are easier

i haven't seen the second season of euphoria so i don't recall all the actors in it.

what about the breh in Marvels Cloak and Dagger?

The Best Black Actors Under 25 In 2022

 

[Unknown Poster]

Over the course of 400+ years, the Black man's image/respectability to no fault of his own has been severely tarnished in the non-black minds of millions that what we are witnessing is a society looking to minimize the Black man's value to the point of being a nonexistent non-factor in America.

In other words, the Black man is just there but his existence isn't acknowledged or respected enough to be considered a factor in society. America has no use or interest in the Black man being a part of this society so thereof we're being pushed out of the existence of things that matter (politics, households, relationships, etc, etc) in this country.

I'm going to say that, White society, White men, in particular, find dealing with Black women and Gay Black men “easier” because they are more likely to assimilate into their culture and embody their interests whereas most Black men (outside of submitting Uncle Toms and c00ns) won't without “problems” arising due to conflicting interests.

The BM and WM will never see eye to eye as there has been everlasting tension between the two dating back to the days of Slavery, Reconstruction, Jim Crow, and many other periods of American history. Black men being shut out of important factions of society is just another blow in the ongoing conflict between Black men and America.

Had to rep this.

 

[Unknown Poster]

This CAC is a racist.

 

[CW_1991]

Facts, this is all over tv nowadays. Case in point, I'm a fan of the show Ozark like everyone else I guess but this black female FBI agent -where's the father to her kid at? And of course the one black male FBI agent was gay

I fukks with Ozark heavy but you're right. The only other black man that comes to mind from that show was the sniveling, incompetent drug dealer dude who sold the bad drugs because the crazy snell woman spiked their shyt with something. And they were torturing and eventually killed him with the plastic bag over his head.

At the end of the day, America is essentially the white man's wakanda. He's always going to be presented and represented as the paragon of virtue and power. It's in his best interest to make sure that every other race of man residing here, especially the black man isn't propagated on any level approximating his.

America is not our kingdom it's theirs. That's just the bottom line.

 

[Unknown Poster]

I work in a juvenile detention center which is predominantly Black and Hispanic.


First Deputy Commissioner is a Black Woman, Assistant deputy commissioner is a black woman, we have 2 Operation’s managers and their both black woman, yesterday the Mayor came to visit my facility and the head of his security detail is a Black woman. Majority of the officer’s and Sargents that help run the facility are black women. I work with this older black girl and she’s always talking about how the laws should be harsher and stricter and we should be holding these black teenagers accountable for their actions etc…. I asked is there no black men qualified for these positions? She said if ya wasn’t killing each other and smoking crack then you would be getting these positions

Had to rep this too.

Many have this ingrained idea that Black Men are just criminal in nature...so even if we're law abiding citizens and have no criminal record (not even a parking ticket)...we're just all criminal and violent and need to be behind bars for society's good...not even our own. They think Black Men just need to be whiskd away from the greater society for it to be comfortable.

:francis;

 

[Unknown Poster]

That's the concern. That these women are put in positions of power and only serve as puppets for white supremacy. These women are doctors, lawyers, teachers, cops, etc. Imagine being gravely ill and in a hospital and your doctor is a divestor. Your life is in your hands.

You see the pattern?

Black Men are kept out of these positions and it's mainly White Women and Black Women in thse positions...and White Men run the show.

It's like when they made a big deal about all of those black female judges, you mean to tell me not 1 black male was available to be a part of that?

EXACTLY!!!!!!!

And almost all of them are married to WHITE MEN! Isn't that fishy? Like thy couldn't find an applicable Black Female candidate married to a Black Man?



It's almost like they purposely selected Black Women with White Men as husbands cause they knew they would be tougher on Black Men than a Black Woman married to a Black Man...also a signifier to young Black Women that their success can be achieved by assimiliating into White society... marrying White Men, locking up Black Men....birthing White Men's babies and continiuing White supremacy.

 

[CarmelBarbie]

You gotta understand the sisterhood is just so much stronger. The community is matriarchy. Plenty of BM are receptive, but some brehs in higher places love being the token and some sistas thrive off rejecting brehs and being guard dogs for cac corporate heads.

Who’s instilling confidence in them? Who’s really looking out for them? How many family members are really uplifting the boys as well as the girls? The whole community needs to care about BM, not just when there’s an incident with a cop, but every single day.

on one hand there’s this belief that black parents are harder on their daughters and easier on their sons (the whole bw raise their daughters to be strong but baby/coddle their sons) on the other hand we’re told that bw do more to support their daughters and are abusive/neglectful with their sons because the sons remind them of the fathers who left.

I’m not saying both theories can’t be right but more so that it seems that the overall issue is that no matter how you slice it a bw really doesnt know how to raise up a boy into young man. Even her attempts to instill confidence will hit differently for the boy, because boys look to men to be men not to women to be men. And that’s natural.

The issue is that a lot of households lack fathers and father figures. so the boys aren’t getting the benefit of having a man there to instill manhood in him, direction, guidance and male support. And if that’s happening with a lot of our households that means a lot of boys are growing up without critical tools.

As much flack as bw get for “accountability”, bw are the ones who are being accountable for the baby they made, by sticking around and actually raising the child on their own. The fathers that aren’t involved are not being accountable. They’re also not really being addressed the way the single mothers are, despite the fact that his absence is the culprit.

Bw can instill a lot more in their daughters because she knows what it takes to be a bw in this world, it’s tougher for her to instill the tools needed to their sons on how to navigate this world as men—that’s why more fathers are needed in the household. Period.

The other issue is what @Booksnrain touched on about why bw started doing their own thing focusing on each other instead of on bm too like they used too. It would be nice if both groups could come together and support each other, but the gender wars, and white pedestal placing that has taken hold has caused a ton of division, so there is a much larger disconnect between the group these days. I don’t think either group really gets each other.

 

[Unknown Poster]

Yep. Added to the fact that women as a sex are behind men, and they're black, they're generally the least catered to across general marketing.

So there is no agenda or any ulterior motive here. Some of you brehs are complete victimised snowflakes

Bro I dapped and undapped this comment super fast when I read this...wtf?

 

[Unknown Poster]

I thought we shouldn't be looking for white validation, and maybe if some Black men stop being bytch ass nikkas that want to pawg in peace and Always complain about Black women then this wouldn't bother some of y'all.

repped.

 

[Unknown Poster]

It's Black men in media fault
None of them push back
They stay silent or agree

this.
repped.

Notice how many of these Black Men in the media never say anything when they parade around another Black Man in a dress...

Go Along Get Along Gang.

 

[CW_1991]

this.
repped.

Notice how many of these Black Men in the media never say anything when they parade around another Black Man in a dress...

Go Along Get Along Gang.

Pretty much every black man that you see on a nationally broadcasted program has already been either vetted and or bought and paid for. That's why I'm always suspicious of a black man that is on mainstream television trying to talk about societal issues when it comes to the black experience. They wouldn't allow anybody on there that's really about to say something that is a threat to their status quos.

Many of them know what the deal is truthfully but they walk a fine line for their paychecks.

 

[Unknown Poster]

I’m confused. Bw ir marriage rate isn’t even that high… here’s a dose of reality: 12%.

his complaints are strange when you look at things in context. Asians and Hispanic women have a much higher IR rate than black women. Interestingly enough whites have the lowest IR rate.

I'm glad you posted this.
So with these IR unions betwen Black Men and other races of women...why is that not represented in the media if it reflects reality?


Why is the media bombarded with these images of Black Women with White Men if that's the case?
:patrice;

Simply put, White Men and men of other races do not like seeing us with their women.
But they do like seeing themselves in dominant positions with Black women.


Because if they aren't dominant over you...they can't coexist with you.