NOSaintsFan02
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Nah, they were already planting the seeds for a Cody title run with him mentioning how he came back to fulfill his promise to his dad
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Is Sami too over to stick to the planned Roman/Rock face off? Is it time to pivot??
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NOSaintsFan02
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Sami's over, idk if he's "Daniel Bryan undeniable WM main event slot" over but he's over. Over enough to dethrone Roman? It'll depend on how much more fanfare he can muster in the next few months and how WWE approaches dethroning Roman.
Obv Rock vs Roman will always be the top choice but I always figured Rock would sign up for the match to lose. Almost like it being Roman's final crowning achievement and Rock goes out on his back like most wrestlers do.
But I still think Cody is their choice and when Cody returns fans will go wild. It'll suck if he lost the momentum from his return but I doubt it. The fans will mark out, even if it's him making a non-surprising "surprise" Royal Rumble entry. It's wild for me to say this too cuz I'd have never thought Cody freaking Rhodes would be the guy but they were pushing dude hard when he returned lol. And the fans ate up every bit of it. He was clearly on his way to being the man. Again, assuming his momentum wasn't halted upon his return, he seems like the obvious choice WWE would want to be as the one who gets the jet strap to his back by defeating Roman.
Obv Rock vs Roman will always be the top choice but I always figured Rock would sign up for the match to lose. Almost like it being Roman's final crowning achievement and Rock goes out on his back like most wrestlers do.
But I still think Cody is their choice and when Cody returns fans will go wild. It'll suck if he lost the momentum from his return but I doubt it. The fans will mark out, even if it's him making a non-surprising "surprise" Royal Rumble entry. It's wild for me to say this too cuz I'd have never thought Cody freaking Rhodes would be the guy but they were pushing dude hard when he returned lol. And the fans ate up every bit of it. He was clearly on his way to being the man. Again, assuming his momentum wasn't halted upon his return, he seems like the obvious choice WWE would want to be as the one who gets the jet strap to his back by defeating Roman.
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I hope they do put the title on Zayn. Can't wait for the new car smell to wear off in record time like it always does with this demographic.
*Three weeks after winning*
"He doesn't look the part."
"He's stale."
"He's much better chasing."
"Put the title back on Roman."
This demo loves their underdog comedy acts until they're no longer underdog comedy acts. When he's no longer doing comedy as the honorary Uce and is actually champion, pitchforks will be raised and reality will set in.
Yep. It’s a cycle. Neck beards are the dirt worse. Backlash will be heavy.
Not every champion need to have a 2 year long Head of the Table run. For some people we just want the moment. It's okay to have transitional champions.I hope they do put the title on Zayn. Can't wait for the new car smell to wear off in record time like it always does with this demographic.
*Three weeks after winning*
"He doesn't look the part."
"He's stale."
"He's much better chasing."
"Put the title back on Roman."
This demo loves their underdog comedy acts until they're no longer underdog comedy acts. When he's no longer doing comedy as the honorary Uce and is actually champion, pitchforks will be raised and reality will set in.
Sami killing shyt right now but he can't do it along. Jey is killing it too
Sami Zayn is my Wrestler of the Year so far, but I don’t believe he’s nearing Daniel Bryan territory with his current role, but WWE should test the waters to see how he does in an elevated role.
They can do that by bloodying him up by Jey Uso and the rest of the bloodline when they turn on him (let’s say after survivor series. They lose their survivor series match), and be out for a couple weeks.
That return pop will be insane, and sets up Sami to try and get his get back (Sami vs Jey at Feb or March PPV, if Sami wins, he gets Roman) leading up to a 1 on 1 with Roman at the Rumble. Throw KO into the mix, and you have potential for a classic moment.
When he hits a helluva kick on Roman for the first time
They can do that by bloodying him up by Jey Uso and the rest of the bloodline when they turn on him (let’s say after survivor series. They lose their survivor series match), and be out for a couple weeks.
That return pop will be insane, and sets up Sami to try and get his get back (Sami vs Jey at Feb or March PPV, if Sami wins, he gets Roman) leading up to a 1 on 1 with Roman at the Rumble. Throw KO into the mix, and you have potential for a classic moment.
When he hits a helluva kick on Roman for the first time
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If Rock/Roman is definitely the move for Mania this year, ain't a chance in hell they're pivoting from that to Sami Zayn.
And this is kinda the issue with the IWC... they see a guy get massively cheered a few times and they think it means he needs to become the top guy in the company. No question, Sami is over. But like @Killer Instinct said, the new car smell wears off and people are completely over it. Is that the guy who dethrones Roman after the longest title run in 30+ years? "IWC" folks can say what they want about McMahon's booking, but I'd NEVER wanna see the IWC book a WrestleMania
And that's not to say Rock is going over Roman for it either. I fully believe when/if this match happens, Rock is taking the L. But they ain't pushin' that off to the side because Sami been gettin' good pops for the last month.
And this is kinda the issue with the IWC... they see a guy get massively cheered a few times and they think it means he needs to become the top guy in the company. No question, Sami is over. But like @Killer Instinct said, the new car smell wears off and people are completely over it. Is that the guy who dethrones Roman after the longest title run in 30+ years? "IWC" folks can say what they want about McMahon's booking, but I'd NEVER wanna see the IWC book a WrestleMania
And that's not to say Rock is going over Roman for it either. I fully believe when/if this match happens, Rock is taking the L. But they ain't pushin' that off to the side because Sami been gettin' good pops for the last month.
Straw Hat Luffy
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Fans wanting Cody or Sami over Rock really should be ashamed of themselves
Rock v Roman is obviously bigger if it’s for the titles, but I think it works better if it’s not.
If it’s for the titles: Roman wins and then what? Or he loses and then Rock is gonna defend the title(s) or just vacate them and split them?
If it’s not: Roman wins and gets redemption from having lost the titles and having brought dishonor to the family by beating the GOAT or he loses and gets humbled by the GOAT but it doesn’t require Rock to defend titles or anything. Then if they wanted to do a second match, you have Roman building towards getting his payback and finally taking down Rock the following year
If it’s for the titles: Roman wins and then what? Or he loses and then Rock is gonna defend the title(s) or just vacate them and split them?
If it’s not: Roman wins and gets redemption from having lost the titles and having brought dishonor to the family by beating the GOAT or he loses and gets humbled by the GOAT but it doesn’t require Rock to defend titles or anything. Then if they wanted to do a second match, you have Roman building towards getting his payback and finally taking down Rock the following year
You do not end a historic championship reign by having said title holder lay down on his back for a "transitional champion." Standard booking begets standard outcomes.
This is not a standard reign.
Roman has been booked as the most dominant champion seen in professional wrestling over the last 25+ years. He's carried the mantle for over 24 months. He is not laying down for a someone who will have a reign of 45 days.
Straw Hat Luffy
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But it should be for the titles. The wwe/Universal title or both should always headline Wrestlemania.
People who want this will just end up complaining down the line that Cody Rhodes or Sami or bray’s moment of going into mania as champion will be second fiddle to the Rock and Roman.
This whole situation of what WWE should do is typical IWC thinking that everyone needs that big moment at the same damn time— which in reality makes no moment special.
People need to reproach their thinking. This isn’t Vince booking anymore. Not everyone with reactions from the fans needs to be wwe or womens Champion to have a moment or progress as a character. Dudes like Sami, Cody, and Bray will all have significant screen time and a moment at Mania regardless of it involving a title or not with HHH around.
The main event should be Roman vs Rock for the titles. Roman wins— neckbeards complain about Romans push being too much and ramble on about bs on how “Roman sucks”. They continue to watch anyways and THEN after this Roman and rock shyt ends someone beats Roman.
That person would beat a guy who beat a shyt ton of legends and that has been champion for 2/3+ years.
No matter who it is and what time that person going to be over af
Right!
Fans be like on one hand, they hate certain booking, they love talkin' about long-term shyt, they want everything to mean something...
But let a wrestler they like catch fire for ONE moment, they want him to become champion for shyts and giggles.
I've been saying the guy that beats Roman for the belt is gonna be the one they want to be the flagship babyface. Not that they have to go on a 3 year nonstop title run like Roman, but they're gonna be on top of the card for a long time. They ain't takin' that shyt off him at a random PPV, or to just anybody for the hell of it.
you can very much end a historic reign with a transitional champion. what are you talking about? They are very clearly booking internal conflict with the bloodline. It's already setup for Sami to win via fukkery if they go that way, and it will make perfect sense. Everybody knows he's not kayfabe stronger than Roman 1-v-1, but him being the one to dethrone Roman temporarily makes perfect sense, due to having other people from the bloodline get involved.
Again, yall thinking that somebody has to be the next head of the table. That's clearly what you're thinking. Sami winning will be about the moment which IS thing in wrestling...see DB beating all of Evolution at mania...see Kofimania...see many MITB cash ins.
edit: the irony is people saying The Rock should dethrone Roman...he would essentially, be a.....................transitional champion. And honestly The Rock becoming champ would be a waste of what they've built for Sami and Jey. One of them deserve to dethrone Roman.
Straw Hat Luffy
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nikka fukk sami’s moment. His moment is this entire storyline
The bigger moment is rock vs Roman in fukking LA of all places