Is Nicki Minaj the undisputed GOAT female rapper?

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Not a fan

But I have to admit she is

Lauryn has 1 album which is great and the fugees shyt was cool, but that’s about it

MC Lyte was my girl but that whole trying to be hard with the ruffneck shyt played out

Lil Kim was alright but overrated
 

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Nobody's discrediting Nicki. If she was undisputed, there wouldn't be a question of "is she the undisputed GOAT".

The Lauryn Hill stuff isn't a joke. Putting Nicki Minaj over Lauryn simply based off the amount of albums is like putting Eminem over Biggie.

I don't even see people putting up songs or verses to back up a claim for Nicki. It's all Billboard accolades and if we're going that route, Lauryn Hill is the only female MC that has a diamond album. She sold 400K in a single week, which at the time was more than what ANY female had sold in one week. Madonna, Whitney, Janet, nor Mariah were doing those numbers in one week.

And if you're discrediting Lauryn for singing, AGAIN, Nicki Minaj does A LOT of singing and a lot of those songs sound like Katy Perry or Gaga songs.
Lauryn Hill is not a rapper
 

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It was a different era + Suge and his horrible management of Death Row ruined A LOT of things

Nasaly Nicki isn't on Rage's level. And washing a male rapper in this era doesn't mean a dayum thing:mjlol:


This is nasaly ?

You know Nicki has a deep tone as well lol .

:russ:

Her range so crazy you don’t realize she has so many flows and tones .

She can go high or very low .

Also it’s been 15 years and she’s been washing rappers .




She talking to most of y’all in this thread :mjpls:
 

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The dumbest part of these arguments is you'll have someone discredit a Lauryn Hill who is still influencing artists BOTH MALE AND FEMALE. They use the "she only dropped one album" argument. That ONE album is still influencing artists 25 years later. And she still is going toe to toe with greats:



In 25 years, no other female MC has accomplished what Lauryn has accomplished.
 

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Nobody's discrediting Nicki. If she was undisputed, there wouldn't be a question of "is she the undisputed GOAT".

The Lauryn Hill stuff isn't a joke. Putting Nicki Minaj over Lauryn simply based off the amount of albums is like putting Eminem over Biggie.

I don't even see people putting up songs or verses to back up a claim for Nicki. It's all Billboard accolades and if we're going that route, Lauryn Hill is the only female MC that has a diamond album. She sold 400K in a single week, which at the time was more than what ANY female had sold in one week. Madonna, Whitney, Janet, nor Mariah were doing those numbers in one week.

And if you're discrediting Lauryn for singing, AGAIN, Nicki Minaj does A LOT of singing and a lot of those songs sound like Katy Perry or Gaga songs.
Stop lying I posted mad examples .

Lots of haters in here don’t even know her music .

Y’all keep talking this pop shyt and I can literally post 100 rap songs if Nicki .

She has a very big diverse fan base .

She’s always tryna to please everyone so her albums aren’t ever going to be just hip hop .
 

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Stop lying I posted mad examples .

Lots of haters in here don’t even know her music .

Y’all keep talking this pop shyt and I can literally post 100 rap songs if Nicki .

She has a very big diverse fan base .

She’s always tryna to please everyone so her albums aren’t ever going to be just hip hop .

I'm the wrong one breh. I've listened to every Nicki album except Pinkprint. Pink Friday is her best album and the closest to a great album as she's gotten unless Pinkprint is better. Roman's Revenge was weak and that's the one with whole a bunch of Pop fluff on it. Queen is as bloated, but it's her second best unless Pinkprint is better. If I had to make best of Nicki, it would be these:

Save Me
Here I Am
The Best
Did It On Em
Moment 4 Life (her best single)
Blazin'
Champion
Roman's Revenge
Come On A Cone
Ganja Burns
Chun Li
Barbie Dreams
 

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She has a very big diverse fan base .

She’s always tryna to please everyone so her albums aren’t ever going to be just hip hop .

Also wanted to strictly speak to this. You're praising her for this on one hand, but this same argument is being used against Lauryn. Regardless of how big her fan base is, there's female artists who have walked that tight rope better than Nicki. And it still remains she dropped one of the WOAT songs with "Stupid Hoe" and I say that objectively because at one point it was one of the most disliked video on YouTube before they disabled dislikes. Then there was whatever we could make of "Massive Attack".
 

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Also wanted to strictly speak to this. You're praising her for this on one hand, but this same argument is being used against Lauryn. Regardless of how big her fan base is, there's female artists who have walked that tight rope better than Nicki. And it still remains she dropped one of the WOAT songs with "Stupid Hoe" and I say that objectively because at one point it was one of the most disliked video on YouTube before they disabled dislikes. Then there was whatever we could make of "Massive Attack".
What?

Anyone that has released the amount of music as Nicki has will have bad songs
 

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The dumbest part of these arguments is you'll have someone discredit a Lauryn Hill who is still influencing artists BOTH MALE AND FEMALE. They use the "she only dropped one album" argument. That ONE album is still influencing artists 25 years later. And she still is going toe to toe with greats:



In 25 years, no other female MC has accomplished what Lauryn has accomplished.

SMH

Lauryn has 1 great album and that is great because of the R&B

This doesn’t compare to Nickis career at all

Y’all going to need someone better than Ms. Hill
 

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SMH

Lauryn has 1 great album and that is great because of the R&B

This doesn’t compare to Nickis career at all

Y’all going to need someone better than Ms. Hill

Lauryn Hill has one ICONIC album and it is iconic for EVERY SONG on it. None of Nicki's music hit on the level. How many diamond albums does Nicki have? Which Nicki album sold 400K in one week? Which Nicki Minaj album is in the registry of the Library of Congress? Which Nicki album is in the Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame?

We have Kendrick Lamar listing Miseducation of Lauryn Hill in his Top 25 HIP HOP albums of all time. Show me where Kendrick or any MC is listing a Nicki album in their top 25.
 
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