Is Joe Burrow The Most Overrated QB?

[Buckeye Fever]

Listen to yourself....So he had a goat college season and went to the Superbowl

That puts him in like the 3 percentile of every QB ever

He's already won more than Philip Rivers ever did

Yeah, I gotta call it like I see it.

Plus, Cincy has been known to start out slow and a lot of us overreact.

@BucciMane probably had Burrow in one of his longshot parlays.

"Burrow to pass for over 500 yds vs NE +3500 @ $50 wager"

 

[Based Lord Zedd]

A lot of projecting forward with CJ. You really cant start a career much better than he did. We cant forget how ass the Texans were too. To go from that to a division title and playoff win in one year as a rookie is some special shyt. He gotta show and prove of course though.

I think he's been good, but the Texans front office has done an incredible job. Stroud is the main piece of it:

Dumped Watson for a ton of picks
Tanked for years until they found a real QB
Drafted well: Tank Dell in 3rd round, Nico Collins in 3rd round, etc.
Solid coach and OC hires once they got tired of fukking around hiring lame ducks
Traded up for last year's DROY and added players like Diggs.

Not hating on Stroud as he's their biggest W, but this is a team effort.

 

[JP_614]

At what point does having to use this qualifier become a problem? When does it become a knock against him like other QBs. At some point availability matters.

How much rope does one half get you? I mean shyt Foles won a SB and got shown the door. Goff got to a SB and got shown the door. Not suggesting they get rid of him but making the point that a SB appearance doesnt make you above reproach.

I feel like it becomes a knock when you have consecutive season missed in my opinion. If you out back to back season with injuries that’s when we start knocking but it’s still apart of the game. When these QBs are healthy are you getting it done in the post season.

For the rope I think it all depends on things like how’s the team defense for one. Goff had a Super Bowl ready defense i think they got rid of him to get over that hump. Teams are never the same year after year. Last year I felt that Ravens defense was the real deal I feel like Lamar has rope cause they didn’t have the talent on the offense end.

 

[Copy Ninja]

At what point does having to use this qualifier become a problem? When does it become a knock against him like other QBs. At some point availability matters.

How much rope does one half get you? I mean shyt Foles won a SB and got shown the door. Goff got to a SB and got shown the door. Not suggesting they get rid of him but making the point that a SB appearance doesnt make you above reproach.

There's some nuance to this conversation. When you compare him to Foles and Goff, those guys had some good runs, but their peak don't match the sustained peak Burrow showed when he was healthy. Burrow looked like an MVP candidate for those two seasons. Foles had an incredible playoff run, similar to Joe Flacco, but he never sustained it for an entire season where you could say "he's a franchise QB for a team the next decade". It's the same with Goff. He's showed some flashes but he's had some down years even when he's healthy.

I can't see a team giving up on a talent like Burrow even when he's showed some health issues where you can look at Foles and Goff and understand why teams have moved on from them.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Joe Burrow has always been ass to start the first couple of weeks of the season, so none of this relatively new.

I'm more so curious as to why that is.

 

[HabitualChiller]

The only quarterbacks that aren't overrated are Goff, Stafford, Mahomes, Lamar and Allen... and Geno.

 

[The Wolf Among You]

I’ve said Herbert for a while now too, but I think he should get more slack than Burrow, especially with the coaches Herbert has had.

What coaches has Herbert had?
You nikkas like hearing yourselves talk.

 

[The Wolf Among You]

QB talk is the worst it’s ever been.
I blame the media for introducing that dumb ass QB vs. QB talk as if these guys don’t play on the same fukking side of the ball.

 

[yseJ]

Herbert is an interesting case. Harbaugh will beat the gunslinger out of him for sure.

 

[The Wolf Among You]

Herbert is an interesting case. Harbaugh will beat the gunslinger out of him for sure.

He’s never been a gunslinger, breh.

 

[yseJ]

He’s never been a gunslinger, breh.

hes had a flair to his play. Harbaugh is super conservative in terms of QBing

 

[The Wolf Among You]

hes had a flair to his play. Harbaugh is super conservative in terms of QBing

That “flair” was him having to overcompensate for other parts of his team.
Harbaugh is attempting to give him two things he’s never had, a solid defense and a run game.

 

[yseJ]

That “flair” was him having to overcompensate for other parts of his team.
Harbaugh is attempting to give him two things he’s never had, a solid defense and a run game.

fair enough

 

[JP_614]

That “flair” was him having to overcompensate for other parts of his team.
Harbaugh is attempting to give him two things he’s never had, a solid defense and a run game.

JK DOBBINS

 

[The Wolf Among You]

JK DOBBINS

Breh, I’m rooting for JK heavy. Not even for team success, but for him as a player.
Dude has been through it.