Is Jay Gay?

[Mr. Nobody]

looks like a fakkit to me

 

[Hannibal Fox]

No..YOU step it up..I ain't the most religious person in the world...but having sex before marriage is a sin..ask for forgiveness..it is what it is...but marrying the same sex is a whole sinful lifestyle...and ur basically Marrying into a sinful lifestyle that's not considered right in the very place ur getting married..2 different things...2 diff levels of disrespect..u have a prob wit the church...but not EVERY church is corrupt..and what YOU feel about the church is irrelevant..wanna know why?..cause u ain't THEM..if they follow the church enough to get married in one...they obviously wouldn't have the same views as u..so u just spewin out hot air...venting ur frustrations for the church out for no reason...no matter what religion..if ur in the place of worship and straight up making a mockery of one of their traditions or guidelines inside that place of worship..it will be considered disrespectful...period..and only a dikkhead whose full of himself/herself would not understand that...like I said..I don't have a prob wit them getting married OUTSIDE the church..if I was religious and have my belief system..who the fukk are u to come at me and disrespect it?..nikka you DON'T have all the answers..NO man does...

Spliz your on point most of the time but your gonna have to explain that one to a brother.

I know I sort of cherry picked that one line and you wasn't addressing me but seriously how could it be a sin?

Son my biology dictates the need to procreate, I don't see what that has to do with marriage.

Are you telling me that the first couple on earth were married?

I'd like to see someone prove that to me.

The only people telling you not to having sex before marriage are the same people who require you have a marriage license so they can tax the life out of a combined household.

 

[yesiambowling]

i don't really care for their rights to marry or not cause for some time i've thought that marriage laws are pretty weird themselves for anyone (gay, straight, etc). so i don't really care that much what happens.

playing devil's advocate: if the argument is that gays should be able to marry because it doesn't change anything in your life and they should have freedom. what's the argument against polygamy or incest? and if it's about the danger of having kids in an incestual couple, then what if they are both sterile? why doesn't the president or Jay-Z stand up for the rights of siblings who want to get married or have relationships??????

Because it isn't politically savvy. He should though; we really have no reason to encourage humans to be monogamous through tax breaks and other benefits.

Also, there is the problem of the constitution having a requirement of being married as a prerequisite to running for national office...

 

[spliz]

Spliz your on point most of the time but your gonna have to explain that one to a brother.

I know I sort of cherry picked that one line and you wasn't addressing me but seriously how could it be a sin?

Son my biology dictates the need to procreate, I don't see what that has to do with marriage.

Are you telling me that the first couple on earth were married?

I'd like to see someone prove that to me.

The only people telling you not to having sex before marriage are the same people who require you have a marriage license so they can tax the life out of a combined household.

I'm just stating what it says in the bible my g...not necessarily my personal views..Mel tried to hit me wit that shyt to shut me down...now I do think if people was less promiscuous there would be less unwanted children and less wildfire spread of diseases n such...whole other discussion tho...

 

[spliz]

there's no such thing as sin. shut the fukk up.

^^^^both u and Mel are being fukkin idiots...FORGET ur personal views on the church for a second...I'M not even speaking from a personal viewpoint and yall comprehension is remedial...IF u believe in the church enough to get MARRIED there..THAT means u believe in sin...cause u OBVIOUSLY subscribe to that religion...WHY the fukk would a gay person or any person get MARRIED under an institution that they DON'T believe in?..obviously if the person had yall views on the church...they WOULDNT get married there..so Wtf are yall even talkin bout?..

 

[Hannibal Fox]

I'm just stating what it says in the bible my g...not necessarily my personal views..Mel tried to hit me wit that shyt to shut me down...now I do think if people was less promiscuous there would be less unwanted children and less wildfire spread of diseases n such...whole other discussion tho...

Thanks for the clarification, I hate threads like these people will generally try and make you look like an out of touch ignorant, bigoted b*stard I doubt Mel was trying that though he was probably trying to play devils advocate.

Me personally, putting all religious books to the side (was in church from young, relatives stretch across all know religions and just plain old atheists) we would all have to agree that, all this extreme promiscuity has a negative effect on society, you don't have to be religious to peep that.

As far as diseases go we cant just blame fast sex for some of the problems, some people are just unhygienic

 

[spliz]

Thanks for the clarification, I hate threads like these people will generally try and make you look like an out of touch ignorant, bigoted b*stard I doubt Mel was trying that though he was probably trying to play devils advocate.

Me personally, putting all religious books to the side (was in church from young, relatives stretch across all know religions and just plain old atheists) we would all have to agree that, all this extreme promiscuity has a negative effect on society, you don't have to be religious to peep that.

As far as diseases go we cant just blame fast sex for some of the problems, some people are just unhygienic

Of course fam..u absolutely right..

 

[Art Barr]

But i CANNOT withhold my being black from society, i CANNOT pick an opportune time to divulge this information to the world. What your are trying for is a society that not only ACCEPTS what you are but LIKES you for what you are. Its not going to be both and that is where i argue with gay people.

Please sleep and do anything you want with whoever, but why are you forcing me to like you/respect you because you want to sleep with a guy. That does not impress or bother me that is their preference. What if i had a sexual preference to having women piss on me? Should i then force you to like me because of this?

Gay people need to come out and say exactly what they are looking for. If its the same rights as straight couples please, give it to them. But if its to be loved and liked by everyone in the world because they are gay then fukk that!!! i do not want anyone telling how to feel or act and then calling me homophobic or chastizing me for not following suit.

prolific posting!!


art barr

 

[Mook]

Comparing gay rights to civil rights..

its a civil rights issue u dweeb

 

[Art Barr]

This is interesting.

It seems that Jay has taken hip hop and advanced it with the views of oppression by America at the moment while the black church has chosen to stick to its fundamental views.

This is a clear line of separation now in the black community.

For better or worse, Jay is the voice of hip-hop and Gen-X, Millennial Blacks.
The Black Church is predominantly the voice of the Baby Boomer, WWII generation.

One is more liberal. One is more conservative.
The black family has clearly been more conservative in the past but with the rise of the internet and the breakdown of the nuclear family, the stronghold that the church has may have been lost in the mix.

All I know is that Jay through Obama the Oop on this.

jay has never spoke for hiphop as a culture.

he has been the number four top rated all time hof sellout in rap history.

only person he speaks for is his gay ass pocketbook.

he does not speak for hiphop.

art barr

 

[kermit da hustla]

^^^^both u and Mel are being fukkin idiots...FORGET ur personal views on the church for a second...I'M not even speaking from a personal viewpoint and yall comprehension is remedial...IF u believe in the church enough to get MARRIED there..THAT means u believe in sin...cause u OBVIOUSLY subscribe to that religion...WHY the fukk would a gay person or any person get MARRIED under an institution that they DON'T believe in?..obviously if the person had yall views on the church...they WOULDNT get married there..so Wtf are yall even talkin bout?..

a lot of non-religious people get married in churches. it's just a tradition, more than any subscription to religious orthodoxy. you're over analyzing shyt.

 

[spliz]

a lot of non-religious people get married in churches. it's just a tradition, more than any subscription to religious orthodoxy. you're over analyzing shyt.

Then thats on them..but I'm not over analyzing anything...either way u put it it is disrespectful to the religion if they are doing something against the religious values in said place of worship..no matter what religion it is..that's where I'm getting at...its not whether I'm Christian..Muslim..buddist..whatever...its the same shyt...when u walk into any of those houses u gotta be respectful..whether u subscribe to the religion or not...and if I'm gonna go as far as have a marriage in one of those institutions..the least I can do is respect the values of said institution...point blank..same way a nikka can't walk into YOUR house and think he could make the rules...he may not agree with them..but he has to respect them cause its YOUR house...they can get married without the church..it shouldnt be a problem whatsoever for them to get married outside the church and by the govt...they should have that right...even tho I don't agree with that lifestyle...

 

[Big Mel]

Obama is Christian.


The bible is outdated dogma.

 

[Hannibal Fox]

Weird how I agree with most of the posts in here, seems to me that indicates that this type of issue is a way of dividing people more and more.

Seems to me that we all can agree to disagree, you have to check some of the bullshyt the 1% seems to perpetuate and call it what it is.

The rest of us are dropping like flies meanwhile they're eating good real good, and laughing at us for after dinner entertainment.

Sidenot:

Whole homosexual issue, as any idiot can tell you it had it's roots in Ancient Greece where pederasty was openly practiced (it was also practiced in Italy and Japan), study it in depth and pay particular attention at the way the pederast's were treated and compare it to what you see today.

Are they trying to legalize pederasty under a different banner?

If they are then the bleeding heart brigade are gonna make it happen eventually.

 

[YippeeKiAyMOFO]

Damn and I was hoping this site wouldn't be as ignorant and backwoods as the last one... Oh well.