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seemorecizzy

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Floyd's retired...no need to stan anymore and respond with false information breh.


You in here saying things that not even Ellerbe said:usure:





That's a duck all day, every day:ufdup:






He turned down Margarito in April 2006. Nobody was saying Floyd was scared to fight Baldomir in April 2006. Then with this happening:





That shows that Floyd ducked Margs in April..........only to sign to fight Baldomir for $1 more.


Also I won't forget all the "bu-bu-but, Margarito isnt a big enough draw", "Bu-bu-but boxing fans dont know who Margarito is", "Bu-bu-but, Margarito has five losses (disregarding Baldomir having 9 losses at the time)":comeon:





Floyd ducked him...you can never prepare a proper defense for that, because it is what is is.


Everyone was looking for Floyd vs Margarito and this nikka said no, bought himself out his contract, went to Dan Goosen to fight the easier Baldomir for the same money +$1:camby:



At this bland attempt to move the goal posts, bringing up something that nothing to do with what we're talking about:snoop:


Since I don't wanna rehash that topic and if we moving goal posts...then:

But you also don't think Floyd cheated to beat Pacquiao by using 15x the amount of fluid in his IVs that are allowed under the WADA code in a 6 hour period, so there might be some bias involved here on your part as well.
mayweather did not wanna fight cheato on THAT date cause of an hand injury, your acting like he fought someone else on the exact same date:what:

he didnt fight carlos until november and floyd is notorious for having hand problems even 9 years after the fact:francis:

read between the lines of the article
they are trying to keep it civil and professional but clearly there are bad feelings between both camps and it s



Arum said Mayweather preferred to await the outcome of the May 6 Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Mayorga fight instead of committing to Margarito because he would prefer to fight De La Hoya.

"We're not sitting waiting on De La Hoya," Ellerbe said. "He's in a tough, tough fight with Mayorga."

Many in the sport believe a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight is the biggest fight on the horizon and the only one capable of generating 1 million-plus buys on pay-per-view.

The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."


Ellerbe said Mayweather opted for the buyout so he could be "more in control of when and who he fights next. It's as simple as that. There is nothing bad between Floyd and Bob."

Arum agreed that the split with Mayweather was not on bad terms like their brief breakup last year. In fact, Arum said, "We intend to be back together. Everything with this was honorable and good. I had offered him numbers [for a multi-fight contract extension] that were livable. His expectations are in the stratosphere. He was entitled to buy me out, and he did. We decided this was the best way to handle it. He is a free agent. We have agreed to work with each other [in the future]."

The split frees Mayweather to make a potential deal with De La Hoya without Arum as part of the promotion. His involvement would have made making a deal almost impossible: The head of Top Rank has openly feuded with De La Hoya, his former superstar, and their companies rarely do business together as a result.



Arum himself said in the article floyd was cool was fighting cheato for 8 mil, just not on that date
if Arum gave floyd his money he woulda stayed at top rank and the cheato fight would of happened, simple as that
floyd was thinking 3-4 fights after the fact, cheato was just a foot note in relation tp his long term plans

once he was a free agent, he distanced himself from the camp and the man who said he wasnt gonna blow up and the rest is history

and will yall stop acting like your guys are IV experts:mindblown::snoop:

no one knew a damn thing about a topic a month ago and now everyone acting like its they went to school for it

Compare putting concrete in your gloves to vitamins breh:beli:
 

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Breh...I skimmed it, but I aint reading all that, because Im sure I've already made my case plenty of times on:
  1. Floyd ducking Antonio Margarito
  2. Floyd using 15x the amount of fluids allowable by WADA via IV
  3. Antonio Margarito/Miguel Cotto

At this point, it's pointless to rehash the same arguments.
 

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Breh...I skimmed it, but I aint reading all that, because Im sure I've already made my case plenty of times on:
  1. Floyd ducking Antonio Margarito
  2. Floyd using 15x the amount of fluids allowable by WADA via IV
  3. Antonio Margarito/Miguel Cotto

At this point, it's pointless to rehash the same arguments.
Bob arum said in the same article u posted that floyd was cool with fighting margarita for 8 mil.
I just want u to explain how it's ducking when he couldn't fight in August cause of a hand injury and then started negotiations for biggest fight in ppv history shortly after.
Your points make no sense :yeshrug:
It's just the cool thing to say
 

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Bob arum said in the same article u posted that floyd was cool with fighting margarita for 8 mil.
I just want u to explain how it's ducking when he couldn't fight in August cause of a hand injury and then started negotiations for biggest fight in ppv history shortly after.

What are you talking about?


He turned down Antonio Margarito in April 2006....he didn't "start negotiations for biggest fight in PPV history shortly after", because he entered negotiations to fight Carlos Baldomir 4 months after turning down Margs and didn't fight him until November 2006. That's a 7 month time span at least, before he even got to talking about fighting Oscar De La Hoya.


You don't even have your timeline correct, but yet you trying to debate?:dwillhuh:


I don't have time for Floyd stan talk today breh....he's retired and we've been over this 1000 times.


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Really nikkas acting like that Margs fight wouldn't have came with Arum options that he STILL does today to his fighters. :shaq2:

fukk Margarito nobody cares about plaster hands :camby:

I'm glad Floyd didn't give him the pay day. :camby:

A win from Margs is what keeps him from being great like Floyd didn't dismantle the two fighters who are the reason he had to retire. :camby:
 

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What are you talking about?


He turned down Antonio Margarito in April 2006....he didn't "start negotiations for biggest fight in PPV history shortly after", because he entered negotiations to fight Carlos Baldomir 4 months after turning down Margs and didn't fight him until November 2006. That's a 7 month time span at least, before he even got to talking about fighting Oscar De La Hoya.


You don't even have your timeline correct, but yet you trying to debate?:dwillhuh:


I don't have time for Floyd stan talk today breh....he's retired and we've been over this 1000 times.


In the words of @Big Boss:



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he turned down a margarito fight for april 2006 cause of a hand injury
he did not turn the fight down completely
at the same time he turned down the APRIL fight, he was stll under contract with top rank and he tried to negotiate to fight margarito for 8 mil, cotto and hatton for 10, and de la hoya for 20
He tried to map out his career money wise and opponent wise
if arum accepted it, he would of stayed on top rank and fought all those guys
so explain to me how he didnt want to fight cheato when arum himself said he did and agreed to a 8 mil purse
the cheato purse was the only purse he agreed to for gods sake:dead:


arum said no so he left and took a Unification bout with Baldomir instead to do his own thing
was he supposed to leave top rank and then work with them on his very next fight:russ:
your not making sense my dude

he did not want to work with arum anymore and didnt until 9 years later.

the Oscar fight had been rumored for Years and became a real possibility after de la hoya beat mayorga, and floyd left top rank, this all happened within a 10 day time span.


de la hoya became his main focus after that, de la hoya was asked mayweather questions after his fight.

i can tell that you really did just SKIM through :heh:
 

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Really nikkas acting like that Margs fight wouldn't have came with Arum options that he STILL does today to his fighters. :shaq2:

fukk Margarito nobody cares about plaster hands :camby:

I'm glad Floyd didn't give him the pay day. :camby:

A win from Margs is what keeps him from being great like Floyd didn't dismantle the two fighters who are the reason he had to retire. :camby:



Strawman argument and triangle theory in the same sentence breh?:jbhmm:
 

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Strawman argument and triangle theory in the same sentence breh?:jbhmm:


Yeah Floyd should have fought that cheating bum to make you nikkas happy new so Arum could have a cut from his fights until 2029. :shaq2:

Did I say he beats Margs because he beat Cotto/Pac? Or did I say Margs doesn't matter and he beat the men that ended his career:jbhmm:
 

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Really nikkas acting like that Margs fight wouldn't have came with Arum options that he STILL does today to his fighters. :shaq2:
That's EXACTLY what happened breh. nikkas really think Floyd was just gonna be allowed to beat Margarito and just walk, like we don't know how Arum gets down :heh:

If Floyd took that fight with Margarito, he would have been locked into a deal with Top Rank and missed out on the Oscar fight. And even then he would have been ok with that had he got 10 mil for fighting Cotto and Hatton. But Arum would only guarantee him 7 mil. That old Jew was really trying to pay him less against 2 bigger draws :mjlol:

The truth is that Floyd was leaving because he was hellbent on getting the fight with Oscar. And boxing's Jerry Heller knew this. So he intentionally gave him a lowball offer knowing he wouldn't accept, so that when Floyd walked out he could start a "ducker/chicken" campaign and run with it (did the same shyt with Gamboa). You some of you dumb mothafukkas took the bait, hook line and sinker :dead:
 

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Nobody wants to rehash old arguments about Floyd, Margarito, etc:camby:



I don't have time for Floyd stan talk today breh....he's retired and we've been over this 1000 times.



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Just repeating the information from the article you posted breh:yeshrug:
 

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Yeah Floyd should have fought that cheating bum to make you nikkas happy new so Arum could have a cut from his fights until 2029. :shaq2:


Were you calling Margs a "cheater" in 2006?:jbhmm:


Are you using 2015 knowledge, to go back in hindsight to dismiss a fight from 2006 friend?:jbhmm:


Floyd should have fought Margarito, because as of April 2006...Antonio Margarito was the WBO Welterweight Champion, who was also ranked the #1 Welterweight in the world by RING Magazine, who just so happened to be with the same company as Floyd was, was called the most avoided man in the sport, and it was a fight that the fans/media wanted, plus it would've been Floyd's career high payday.:mjpls:


So, yall can "Back To The Future" your responses in 2015 for a fight that was going to happen in 2006 all yall want too, but unfortunately, we were there too.....and we know the truth as well as you do.


No spin allowed friend.


Did I say he beats Margs because he beat Cotto/Pac? Or did I say Margs doesn't matter and he beat the men that ended his career:jbhmm:


How does Floyd beating 2012 Cotto or 2015 Pacquiao have anything to do with how a Floyd fight with 2006 Antonio Margarito would play out?:jbhmm:


Do either one of them (the 2012 version of Cotto or the 2015 version of Pacquiao that Floyd fought) fight like 2006 Margarito?:mjpls:


That's a triangle theory you used which is not applicable at all to the timeline.
 

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That's EXACTLY what happened breh. nikkas really think Floyd was just gonna be allowed to beat Margarito and just walk, like we don't know how Arum gets down :heh:

If Floyd took that fight with Margarito, he would have been locked into a deal with Top Rank and missed out on the Oscar fight. And even then he would have been ok with that had he got 10 mil for fighting Cotto and Hatton. But Arum would only guarantee him 7 mil. That old Jew was really trying to pay him less against 2 bigger draws :mjlol:

The truth is that Floyd was leaving because he was hellbent on getting the fight with Oscar. And boxing's Jerry Heller knew this. So he intentionally gave him a lowball offer knowing he wouldn't accept, so that when Floyd walked out he could start a "ducker/chicken" campaign and run with it (did the same shyt with Gamboa). You some of you dumb mothafukkas took the bait, hook line and sinker :dead:
this is all truth
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plus i honestly dont think arum for saw mayweathe becoming this big of a star

i expect casuals and floyd haters to come with the he ducked margarito crap cause they know no better

floyd made a smart business move, made a bet on himself and won:yeshrug:

i keep trying to tell ppl that floyd could care less about margarito:russ:
didnt even want a shyt load of money to fight him

he was focusing on guys who had bigger draws like cotto hatton de la hoya so he could get his name out ther
 

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That's EXACTLY what happened breh. nikkas really think Floyd was just gonna be allowed to beat Margarito and just walk, like we don't know how Arum gets down :heh:

If Floyd took that fight with Margarito, he would have been locked into a deal with Top Rank and missed out on the Oscar fight. And even then he would have been ok with that had he got 10 mil for fighting Cotto and Hatton. But Arum would only guarantee him 7 mil. That old Jew was really trying to pay him less against 2 bigger draws :mjlol:

The truth is that Floyd was leaving because he was hellbent on getting the fight with Oscar. And boxing's Jerry Heller knew this. So he intentionally gave him a lowball offer knowing he wouldn't accept, so that when Floyd walked out he could start a "ducker/chicken" campaign and run with it (did the same shyt with Gamboa). You some of you dumb mothafukkas took the bait, hook line and sinker :dead:


yeah Floyd should have stayed a slave to Arum and not become the highest paid boxer of all time because........Margarito :mjlol:


Were you calling Margs a "cheater" in 2006?:jbhmm:


Are you using 2015 knowledge, to go back in hindsight to dismiss a fight from 2006 friend?:jbhmm:


Floyd should have fought Margarito, because as of April 2006...Antonio Margarito was the WBO Welterweight Champion, who was also ranked the #1 Welterweight in the world by RING Magazine, who just so happened to be with the same company as Floyd was, was called the most avoided man in the sport, and it was a fight that the fans/media wanted, plus it would've been Floyd's career high payday.:mjpls:


So, yall can "Back To The Future" your responses in 2015 for a fight that was going to happen in 2006 all yall want too, but unfortunately, we were there too.....and we know the truth as well as you do.


No spin allowed friend.





How does Floyd beating 2012 Cotto or 2015 Pacquiao have anything to do with how a Floyd fight with 2006 Antonio Margarito would play out?:jbhmm:


Do either one of them (the 2012 version of Cotto or the 2015 version of Pacquiao that Floyd fought) fight like 2006 Margarito?:mjpls:


That's a triangle theory you used which is not applicable at all to the timeline.

I know you're a Marg stan so this topic is dear to you friend but Margs is a nobody cheater in the grand scheme of things. A Marg fight would have came with Arum options. He CLEARLY made the right choice, put your feelings for Marg aside you know this is true.

Triangle theories implies victory I said wins over Cotto/Pac >>>>> a win over Cyclope.
 
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