Is Fatherlessness A Black Women's Problem, or A Black Males' Problem?

[Elle Driver]

I think that it is beneficial. America is one of the only countries that will frown at a 24 years old being with a 37 year old. When I am 24 I see nothing wrong with being with a man that is 37. My father is 13 years older than my mother. Women should come correct and be with good older men, or if dating in their age group get with a man with potential shown through actions. Too many women throw away their youth on frivolous relationships. Then wait until they are 30 to start seriously dating.

Depends on your definition of dating. Some only date to find a potential spouse, others just to be with someone they like but don't necessarily think that long term. And its now frown upon because women can work and support themselves, marrying a man that much older meant he was more established and could take care of you.

 

[PartyHeart]

I can speak for myself and say I don't even know what a warrior class of men is. But if its anything like coli men I not only don't want it I want it as far away from me as possible

Speaking for myself again, I would just be content with black men not being abusive towards black women and then blaming black women for their abuse. That abuse includes impregnating Black women and leaving them with children saying "look what you made me do by choosing me in the first place "

 

[marcuz]

Why should men be taught it and not women if its not even intrinsic to men (I'm assuming you're also saying its not intrinsic to women)?

Also, remember when you defined a matriarchy as an absence of a father in the home, and said the Black community would be a patriarchy if black women abandoned black children en masse and left them with black men?

go ahead and continue this role reversal, it wont fix the problems in the black community though. end of the day, women don't build and maintain the physical infrastructure of any given community; that's the MENS job. we've had over 40 yrs of female leadership and y'all haven't created a system that protects us from white supremacy.

and women have to WANT black male leadership first. instead, many of y'all want to be momma matriarch. y'all don't want to live under the authority of a man doing better than you, it's damn near foreign territory to BW. y'all would rather start broken homes, then use the sperm donor as a scapegoat after you fukk up.

 

[bcrusaderw]

Black women need to stop picking shytty men and entertaining dysfunctional relationships. Let's not even get into how some black women are so desperate for a non black man and will take a shytty non black man over a good black man. I'll let that cook though

Let's talk about it then we could discuss the fact that black men date out TWICE as much as black women, and have the highest divorce rates of any pairing when doing so.

 

[PartyHeart]

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You didn't answer my questions. Let me post them again.

Why should men be taught it (leadership) and not women if its not even intrinsic to men (I'm assuming you're also saying its not intrinsic to women)?

Also, remember when you defined a matriarchy as an absence of a father in the home, and said the Black community would be a patriarchy if black women abandoned black children en masse and left them with black men?

 

[Lana del Rey]

@agnosticlady are you a black woman??

 

[marcuz]

I can speak for myself and say I don't even know what a warrior class of men is. But if its anything like coli men I not only don't want it I want it as far away from me as possible

Speaking for myself again, I would just be content with black men not being abusive towards black women and then blaming black women for their abuse. That abuse includes impregnating Black women and leaving them with children saying "look what you made me do by choosing me in the first place "

you black women play a sick fukking game. you run from patriarchal men because you feel black male leadership is inherently oppressive. you want the freedom to live hwo you choose to live. then you blame the nikkas y'all used as sperm donors for not sticking around--even though 9/10, the nikka y'all chose has NOTHING to offer you or his offspring.

it's such a sick fukking game, man

 

[bcrusaderw]

go ahead and continue this role reversal, it wont fix the problems in the black community though. end of the day, women don't build and maintain the physical infrastructure of any given community; that's the MENS job. we've had over 40 yrs of female leadership and y'all haven't created a system that protects us from white supremacy.

and women have to WANT black male leadership first. instead, many of y'all want to be momma matriarch. y'all don't want to live under the authority of a man doing better than you, it's damn near foreign territory to BW. y'all would rather start broken homes, then use the sperm donor as a scapegoat after you fukk up.

I was wondering why you were so late to the party. And there has been no such black female leadership that you all are talking about. To say so is to lie.

 

[bcrusaderw]

@agnosticlady are you a black woman??

Yes, she is.

 

[PartyHeart]

you black women play a sick fukking game. you run from patriarchal men because you feel black male leadership is inherently oppressive. you want the freedom to live hwo you choose to live. then you blame the nikkas y'all used as sperm donors for not sticking around--even though 9/10, the nikka y'all chose has NOTHING to offer you or his offspring.

it's such a sick fukking game, man

'Fatherlessness' in the IR community is just as prevalent as it is in the black community when the paternal party is black. Is every woman playing this game with black men and black men only?

Eventually you all have to own up. It can't be everybody else forever. It can't be.

 

[marcuz]

You didn't answer my questions. Let me post them again.

Why should men be taught it (leadership) and not women if its not even intrinsic to men (I'm assuming you're also saying its not intrinsic to women)?

Also, remember when you defined a matriarchy as an absence of a father in the home, and said the Black community would be a patriarchy if black women abandoned black children en masse and left them with black men?

i did answer you, because MEN build and maintain the physical infrastructure of the community. men BUILD and maintain the patriarchy that women and children benefit from.

you can try to teach women leadership, but you still wont go out and BUILD. or even if y'all did build, you would no longer be desirable. who wants some masculine black women that thinks and acts exactly like a man?

 

[mamba]

you black women play a sick fukking game. you run from patriarchal men because you feel black male leadership is inherently oppressive. you want the freedom to live hwo you choose to live. then you blame the nikkas y'all used as sperm donors for not sticking around--even though 9/10, the nikka y'all chose has NOTHING to offer you or his offspring.

it's such a sick fukking game, man

Yes. It's beyond sick.

 

[agnosticlady]

So magically all the deadbeats will disappear if they stop getting p*ssy?

These three things will happen

A.) They die off. When black women marry and procreate with good black men the men become leaders of the community and set a standard.

B.) Dusty men will see that if they want to get with a black woman of worth they have to come correct, so they will have to put their best foot forward and change.

C.) They will have tor run to non black women en mass and be dusty over there. Slim chance of that happening in large groups so they die off.

 

[PartyHeart]

i did answer you, because MEN build and maintain the physical infrastructure of the community. men BUILD and maintain the patriarchy that women and children benefit from.

you can try to teach women leadership, but you still wont go out and BUILD. or even if y'all did build, you would no longer be desirable. who wants some masculine black women that thinks and acts exactly like a man?

Which physical infrastructures are you referring to and are you referring to black men building and maintaining them? Because.

And again I ask you: remember when you defined a matriarchy as an absence of a father in the home, and said the Black community would be a patriarchy if black women abandoned black children en masse and left them with black men?

 

[marcuz]

'Fatherlessness' in the IR community is just as prevalent as it is in the black community when the paternal party is black. Is every woman playing this game with black men and black men only?

Eventually you all have to own up. It can't be everybody else forever. It can't be.

oh you're damn right. fatherless white women fall for the same trap. it's no secret that the BM is where you go as a woman, when you want to run the ship.

and make no mistake about it, this is a black male issue. but i'm focused on the BLACK WOMAN that raised this man and gave him all of her core values for 18 years