Is Fatherlessness A Black Women's Problem, or A Black Males' Problem?

[Elle Driver]

Honestly Future does not want to settle down. Look at the way he carries himself. Why would those women allow themselves to get pregnant by Future knowing the type of man he is?

Why would he nut in them knowing he doesn't plan on putting a ring on their finger?

LMAO how is cooking your husband and making him happy being in an inferior position? When your man goes out of his way to do something sweet for you is he now being in an inferior position? This is definitely a hyper feminine society. This is why we have young boys twerking on twitter. Fatherhood in this country is not even respected. Look at a lot of family sitcoms. The fathers are usually portrayed as dim witted, scared of their wives, and always making mistakes. The wife is always the hero that saves the fay after the husband did something really stupid. Women are protecting the household? So after a woman digs herself into deep hole she then has the badge of honor of protecting her household. When you have a husband you don't have to protect the household. No man of worth is going to put his wife at the forefront.

This isn't a hyper feminine society. Why do men need to wear heels and make up. Why?

You're using outliers. And she never said cooking for your husband makes you inferior, maybe she just happens to not wanna do that and she has that right.

 

[DarkHorse23]

Why would he nut in them knowing he doesn't plan on putting a ring on their finger?

OMG because he doesn't care!!! He's not the marrying or husband type. He's not the responsible type. SMH did you graduate from high school?

 

[Queen]

This is 2015. If men expect traditional wives then they need to be traditional husbands, yet most women are providing and protecting the household as well. THAT is why women are rejecting an inferior position. Before it might have been worth it. Today it's not. This isn't a hyperfeminine society only an imbecile would think so. Women hold very little power in modern society.

I agree with your post but the word choice

Women are rejecting traditional roles because they are not paired up with traditional men. Men want traditional wives but they don't want to be providers.

Also, the role of a traditional wife has been made into a role of subservience as opposed to being seen an important role that helps maintain the family structure and allows for the husband and wife to work as a team. Women will not accept being seen as inferior, but that does not mean the traditional role of a woman is in fact an inferior role.

 

[agnosticlady]

Why would he nut in them knowing he doesn't plan on putting a ring on their finger?



You're using outliers. And she never said cooking for your husband makes you inferior, maybe she just happens to not wanna do that and she has that right.

So if your husband asks you to make him a meal it's ok to just flat out tell him no? Being submissive to your husband is inferior? What exactly is an inferior position in marriage?

I'm not using outliers. Future can not get those women pregnant if they did not open their legs for him. Unless you are a raped a man can not ge you pregnant without you allowing him to. Unless I am raped no man is getting me pregnant without my consent. They should have left once they saw that he isn't marriage material.

 

[DarkHorse23]

So if your husband asks you to make him a meal it's ok to just flat out tell him no? Being submissive to your husband is inferior? What exactly is an inferior position in marriage?

I'm not using outliers. Future can not get those women pregnant if they did not open their legs for him. Unless you are a raped a man can not ge you pregnant without you allowing him to. Unless I am raped no man is getting me pregnant without my consent. They should have left once they saw that he isn't marriage material.

Why 99.9% of women can't grasp this i'll never know.

 

[bcrusaderw]

@Elle Driver @Queen I'm sorry you guys I didn't meant to imply that there is anything wrong with submission, or to belittle women who do. I don't want to project that. I mean to say that it's silly and illogical for men to expect submission when they can't lead/provide, and also that some women don't want to submit.

 

[Elle Driver]

So if your husband asks you to make him a meal it's ok to just flat out tell him no? Being submissive to your husband is inferior? What exactly is an inferior position in marriage?

I'm not using outliers. Future can not get those women pregnant if they did not open their legs for him. Unless you are a raped a man can not ge you pregnant without you allowing him to. Unless I am raped no man is getting me pregnant without my consent. They should have left once they saw that he isn't marriage material.

That's @bcrusaderw choice. Not mine. I don't have a problem with that. But as a woman, she has a choice to not be comfortable with that position.

 

[Elle Driver]

@Elle Driver @Queen I'm sorry you guys I didn't meant to imply that there is anything wrong with submission, or to belittle women who do. I don't want to project that. I mean to say that it's silly and illogical for men to expect submission when they can't lead/provide, and also that some women don't want to submit.

That's your choice, do not apologize for it. The wording was a little off but still.

I do not see a problem with being submissive, a home maker, etc. I didn't see that growing up with my mother, in which my father felt slighted and emasculated so I tend to lean towards more traditional roles of the wife. But like I said, that's my choice. If you're not comfortable with that as a woman, then that's your choice as well. Feminism eh? @Juicy

 

[agnosticlady]

That's @bcrusaderw choice. Not mine. I don't have a problem with that. But as a woman, she has a choice to not be comfortable with that position.

She has a choice to complain, but don't turn around and cry about black men not wanting to marry women like that.

 

[Elle Driver]

She has a choice to complain, but don't turn around and cry about black men not wanting to marry women like that.

There's somebody for everybody.

 

[PartyHeart]

OMG you don't want kids so YOU make the conscious decision not to have kids. ....

This might surprise you, but plenty of men also make a conscious decision to not have kids. They, wait for it, don't leave it up to women to prevent them from procreating. They actively ensure that they don't until they are with a woman they want to be married to.

I know I know it sounds crazy to coli men and yourself but its true

Actually, I think these are the types of guys you are trying to claim exist in abundance in the Black community, so you might want to keep that in mind.

 

[PartyHeart]

@Elle Driver @Queen I'm sorry you guys I didn't meant to imply that there is anything wrong with submission, or to belittle women who do. I don't want to project that. I mean to say that it's silly and illogical for men to expect submission when they can't lead/provide, and also that some women don't want to submit.

Submission is not something that should be thrust upon or expected of women just because of their gender though. Everyone can make their own choices, but its not wrong to disagree with that notion at all. I think even women who do want to submit in their own personal relationships should fight against that stereotype. Its harmful.

 

[agnosticlady]

This might surprise you, but plenty of men also make a conscious decision to not have kids. They, wait for it, don't leave it up to women to prevent them from procreating. They actively ensure that they don't until they are with a woman they want to be married to.

I know I know it sounds crazy to coli men and yourself but its true

Actually, I think these are the types of guys you are trying to claim exist in abundance in the Black community, so you might want to keep that in mind.

My point is if @bcrusaderw and I can make the decision not to have kids until we are ready then why can't the other black women having kids out of wedlock make that same decision. She and I know not to marry or get pregnant by a worthless black man, so why can't other black women come to that conclusion? Why do those women go and have MORE kids out of wedlock??

 

[agnosticlady]

There's somebody for everybody.

And that's why I have said many times that her man will be a lap dog.

 

[Elle Driver]

And that's why I have said many times that her man will be a lap dog.

If he is, fukk does your single ass care for?